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Bill Giovino
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:40 pm    Post subject: Microchip Introduces First 16-bit Microcontroller Product Li Reply with quote
http://microcontroller.com/news/microchip_pic24.asp

Up to 40MIPS performance, up to 256Kbytes Flash, a 23-bit address bus, and
Microchip's benchmarks show that it's faster than the Infineon C16X. A parts
selection matrix is included.


- Bill Giovino
Executive Editor
http://Microcontroller.com
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Al Borowski
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Microchip Introduces First 16-bit Microcontroller Produc Reply with quote
Hi,

"Microchip Introduces First 16-bit Microcontroller Product Line" ?

I think TI would have something to say about that - www.ti.com/msp430
And unlike the PIC24xxx parts, you can buy them today.

cheers,

Al
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Bill Giovino
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Microchip Introduces First 16-bit Microcontroller Produc Reply with quote
Re: Microchip Introduces First 16-bit Microcontroller Product Line - the
PIC24

Of course, I mean MICROCHIP's *first* 16-bit microcontroller...
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Jim Granville
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Microchip Introduces First 16-bit Microcontroller Produc Reply with quote
Bill Giovino wrote:

[quote]http://microcontroller.com/news/microchip_pic24.asp

Up to 40MIPS performance, up to 256Kbytes Flash, a 23-bit address bus, and
Microchip's benchmarks show that it's faster than the Infineon C16X.
[/quote]
Maybe someone should tell Microchip about the XC166 ?
[Oh yes, that would make the Pic24 look worse, so that's why they'll
be keen to compare with a 15 year old core.... ]

-jg
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Jim Granville
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Microchip Introduces First 16-bit Microcontroller Produc Reply with quote
Bill Giovino wrote:

[quote]Re: Microchip Introduces First 16-bit Microcontroller Product Line - the
PIC24

Of course, I mean MICROCHIP's *first* 16-bit microcontroller...
[/quote]
Err, isn't this just a subset/respin of the dsPIC, so it't not
actually even Microchip's first 16 bit controller ?

[ but facts never get in the way of a good marketing banner...]

-jg
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jyaron
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 12:15 am    Post subject: Re: Microchip Introduces First 16-bit Microcontroller Produc Reply with quote
ouch... hammer that 'marketing'.. touchee
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TheDoc
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 6:05 am    Post subject: Re: Microchip Introduces First 16-bit Microcontroller Produc Reply with quote
"Bill Giovino" <editor@noospam-microcontroller.com> wrote in message
news:EaOdnRQBRskgC9benZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com...
[quote]http://microcontroller.com/news/microchip_pic24.asp

Up to 40MIPS performance, up to 256Kbytes Flash, a 23-bit address bus, and
Microchip's benchmarks show that it's faster than the Infineon C16X. A
parts
selection matrix is included.


- Bill Giovino
Executive Editor
http://Microcontroller.com



[/quote]
They mean of course "their" first 16 microcontroller product..

shame.. I guess they gave up with the 8 bit trash and are now attempting to
poison the 16 bit market

Just another "me too product"..
probably have to wait another 2 years for a useable c compiler to boot...
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Don McKenzie
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 7:39 am    Post subject: Re: Microchip Introduces First 16-bit Microcontroller Produc Reply with quote
Bill Giovino wrote:

[quote]http://microcontroller.com/news/microchip_pic24.asp

Up to 40MIPS performance, up to 256Kbytes Flash, a 23-bit address bus, and
Microchip's benchmarks show that it's faster than the Infineon C16X. A parts
selection matrix is included.


- Bill Giovino
Executive Editor
http://Microcontroller.com
[/quote]
Ouch!
I see more sleepless nights for PIC Programmer code writers.

Don...


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Paul Burke
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:15 am    Post subject: Re: Microchip Introduces First 16-bit Microcontroller Produc Reply with quote
TheDoc wrote:

[quote]shame.. I guess they gave up with the 8 bit trash and are now attempting to
poison the 16 bit market
[/quote]

I wish some of the other micro producers would give as comprehensive a
coverage as Microchip. Their core architecture may be foul, but the
selection of packages (including DIP), peripherals, operating voltages,
and availability of development stuff leaves me utterly jealous.

Paul Burke
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Chris Hills
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:15 am    Post subject: Re: Microchip Introduces First 16-bit Microcontroller Produc Reply with quote
In article <EaOdnRQBRskgC9benZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com>, Bill Giovino
<editor@noospam-microcontroller.com> writes
[quote]http://microcontroller.com/news/microchip_pic24.asp

Up to 40MIPS performance, up to 256Kbytes Flash, a 23-bit address bus, and
Microchip's benchmarks show that it's faster than the Infineon C16X. A parts
selection matrix is included.


- Bill Giovino
Executive Editor
http://Microcontroller.com
[/quote]

SO just as the 16 bit market is declining Microchip enter it.

The 8 bit parts are getting more powerful and thanks to ARM the 32 bit
ones a lot less expensive. The 16 bit market is on the decline.

There are a few well entrenched parts that will go on for some time but
now is not the time to introduce a new 16 bit family.



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Paul Burke
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 3:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Microchip Introduces First 16-bit Microcontroller Produc Reply with quote
Ian Bell wrote:

[quote]Why, the 8051 has it beaten every way.
[/quote]
Especially for the vile arhitecture.
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Ian Bell
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 4:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Microchip Introduces First 16-bit Microcontroller Produc Reply with quote
Paul Burke wrote:

[quote]TheDoc wrote:

shame.. I guess they gave up with the 8 bit trash and are now attempting
to poison the 16 bit market


I wish some of the other micro producers would give as comprehensive a
coverage as Microchip. Their core architecture may be foul, but the
selection of packages (including DIP), peripherals, operating voltages,
and availability of development stuff leaves me utterly jealous.

Paul Burke
[/quote]
Why, the 8051 has it beaten every way.

Ian
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James Beck
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 4:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Microchip Introduces First 16-bit Microcontroller Produc Reply with quote
In article <buoU4UAvlLTDFAOt@phaedsys.demon.co.uk>, chris@phaedsys.org
says...
[quote]In article <EaOdnRQBRskgC9benZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com>, Bill Giovino
editor@noospam-microcontroller.com> writes
http://microcontroller.com/news/microchip_pic24.asp

Up to 40MIPS performance, up to 256Kbytes Flash, a 23-bit address bus, and
Microchip's benchmarks show that it's faster than the Infineon C16X. A parts
selection matrix is included.


- Bill Giovino
Executive Editor
http://Microcontroller.com


SO just as the 16 bit market is declining Microchip enter it.

The 8 bit parts are getting more powerful and thanks to ARM the 32 bit
ones a lot less expensive. The 16 bit market is on the decline.

There are a few well entrenched parts that will go on for some time but
now is not the time to introduce a new 16 bit family.


It makes sense to me.[/quote]
Put out a migration path for your users that want a bit more processing
power so they won't look elsewhere.
Keeps the loyalty and money in their pocket.

Jim
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Mochuelo
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Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 12:15 am    Post subject: Re: Microchip Introduces First 16-bit Microcontroller Produc Reply with quote
On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 06:40:35 -0400, "Bill Giovino"
<editor@noospam-microcontroller.com> wrote:

[quote]http://microcontroller.com/news/microchip_pic24.asp

Up to 40MIPS performance, up to 256Kbytes Flash, a 23-bit address bus, and
Microchip's benchmarks show that it's faster than the Infineon C16X. A parts
selection matrix is included.


- Bill Giovino
Executive Editor
http://Microcontroller.com


[/quote]
Microchip sucks. I can't understand how come someone is paying 3.65
EUR for a PIC16F77, when an Atmel ATmega48 can be bought for 1.21 EUR.
(DigiKey, 100 pcs). The PIC is sheer crap compared to the AVR. I
didn't know so many rednecks were using MCUs. Otherwise, I can't
understand Microchip's survival.

Infineon C16X? What are you talking about? That is also sheer crap.
Get a life, and use any ARM7 (Philips, Atmel, TI, ...) or even a 24xx
TI DSP for a lower price.
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Sergio Masci
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Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 3:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Microchip Introduces First 16-bit Microcontroller Produc Reply with quote
On Thu, 13 Oct 2005, Mochuelo wrote:

Quote:
On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 06:40:35 -0400, "Bill Giovino"
editor@noospam-microcontroller.com> wrote:

http://microcontroller.com/news/microchip_pic24.asp

Up to 40MIPS performance, up to 256Kbytes Flash, a 23-bit address bus, and
Microchip's benchmarks show that it's faster than the Infineon C16X. A parts
selection matrix is included.


- Bill Giovino
Executive Editor
http://Microcontroller.com



Microchip sucks. I can't understand how come someone is paying 3.65
EUR for a PIC16F77, when an Atmel ATmega48 can be bought for 1.21 EUR.
(DigiKey, 100 pcs). The PIC is sheer crap compared to the AVR. I
didn't know so many rednecks were using MCUs. Otherwise, I can't
understand Microchip's survival.

Infineon C16X? What are you talking about? That is also sheer crap.
Get a life, and use any ARM7 (Philips, Atmel, TI, ...) or even a 24xx
TI DSP for a lower price.


Professionals solve problems and take advantage of the properties of a
"strange" architecture.

Amatures bellyache about everything to distract others from the fact that
they cannot compete with professionals.


Regards
Sergio Masci
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