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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 12:15 am    Post subject: Re: Pentium M to become THE CPU Reply with quote

On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 13:48:56 +0200, Ketil Malde <ketil+news@ii.uib.no>
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Bill Todd <billtodd@metrocast.net> writes:

Perhaps you haven't been paying attention recently: AMD just
introduced a 2.4 GHz mobile chip with a 35W power envelope

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it is intended to fit into a standard
(socket 939) motherboard¹? So if there is a demand for quiet PCs (in
addition to laptops), the market should be ready.

IIRC, Turion fits into a standard s754 board (must have BIOS and
voltages to support it). May be also a good upgrade path for 754
board owners, though on expensive side (naturally, mobile parts were
always more expensive than their desktop brethren).

NNN

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-k

¹ Of course, it'll be one of those with a big heatsink and fan on the
chipset, and a separate PSU for the two graphics cards :-)
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 12:15 am    Post subject: Re: Pentium M to become THE CPU Reply with quote

Bill Todd <billtodd@metrocast.net> writes:

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I suspect the Athlon64 referred to is a low-voltage model, 2 GHz is
getting close to the bottom of its clock range these days, and the
use of SOI should cut its leakage even more compared with the Intel
products.

Turion64 comes in (peak) 25W and 35W, I would think idling on 50% of
max is rather high? BTW, are low-voltage dual core parts even
available?

-k
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 12:15 am    Post subject: Re: Pentium M to become THE CPU Reply with quote

"nobody@nowhere.net" <mygarbage2000@hotmail.com> writes:

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IIRC, Turion fits into a standard s754 board (must have BIOS and
voltages to support it).

Right - I just found a web store selling them.

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[..] on expensive side (naturally, mobile parts were
always more expensive than their desktop brethren).

The price is not too bad, actually. Certainly cheaper than
Pentium M, both motherboard and chip.

-k
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 12:15 am    Post subject: Re: Pentium M to become THE CPU Reply with quote

Ketil Malde wrote:
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Bill Todd <billtodd@metrocast.net> writes:


I suspect the Athlon64 referred to is a low-voltage model, 2 GHz is
getting close to the bottom of its clock range these days, and the
use of SOI should cut its leakage even more compared with the Intel
products.


Turion64 comes in (peak) 25W and 35W, I would think idling on 50% of
max is rather high?

Supposedly AMD uses a process tweaked somewhat differently for its
mobile parts, so the two may not be directly comparable.

BTW, are low-voltage dual core parts even
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available?

Beats me - though IIRC they haven't been out as long as the single-core
parts were before LV versions appeared there (then again, having
followed that road already it shouldn't take as long to retrace it).

- bill
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:15 am    Post subject: Re: Pentium M to become THE CPU Reply with quote

In comp.sys.intel Oliver S. <Follow.Me@gmx.net> wrote:
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So for high-performance-applications you would have to nail a thread to a
certain CPU and use an API that would give you memory-pages that
physically map to the memory attached to the CPU. But I'm not aware of any
OS that supports this processor-affine allocations.

Both Windows and Linux support tying a thread or process to a given CPU;
it's hard to imagine a SMP-capable OS that doesn't. Linux has some support
for efficient memory allocation on NUMA systems, although it's a good deal
more limited than what you suggest.

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