[OT?] FBI Virtual Case File is even possible?
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Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 12:35 am    Post subject: Re: [OT?] FBI Virtual Case File is even possible? Reply with quote

eugene@cse.ucsc.edu (Eugene Miya) writes:
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CIA Virtual Case File is even possible?
NSA Virtual Case File is even possible?
G[S]IA Virtual Case File is even possible?
NRO Virtual Case File is even possible?

marginally related posting from comp.databases.theory
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005.html#55

with historical reference to one of those agencies ... this has
embedded prior post that also makes obtuse reference to one such
agency.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005b.html#1

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Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 3:41 am    Post subject: Re: [OT?] FBI Virtual Case File is even possible? Reply with quote

jgrove24@hotmail.com wrote:
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...and CNN
The current program requires FBI personnel to manually enter, print,
sign and scan their information into the "investigative data
warehouse."
The new software program was supposed to allow agents to pass along
along intelligence and criminal information in real time.

It's worse than you think... If you poke around a bit, you discover that
the "Investigative Data Warehouse" was a proof-of-concept piece intended
mostly for A: evaluating search tools, and B: figuring out what analysts
needed. It went online in summer of '04, it worked beautifully,
and the analyst test group using it told other analysts, who promptly
glommed on to the first (and at this point, only) working
multiple-source search capability.

Later in the CNN article, it mentions that there are 6000 operational users
of that system... which is pretty impressive for a system designed for a test
group of about 200. (This may also be why it's so awkward to enter data into
the system... It may not have been intended for user updates of data.)
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Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 4:50 am    Post subject: Re: [OT?] FBI Virtual Case File is even possible? Reply with quote

Eugene Miya wrote:
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In article <1v0ru0phjdv5571gmolugemaapjc7dt0hr@4ax.com>,
Robert Myers <rmyers1400@comcast.net> wrote:

I got email requested back for a moment.

On 18 Jan 2005 11:30:18 -0800, eugene@cse.ucsc.edu (Eugene Miya)
wrote:
Oh, is it possible? Hmmm. Well, likely you want to substitute
other TLAs
and see if you think that.

I like this article

While DOD is a TLA, it is more than well known that the DOD can throw
money almost wherever it wants.

If you *really* want to throw money around, even in DoD-land, you go
black; i.e., you head for one of the spook agencies you later ask me to
consider. There is, as you know, a brouhahah *right now* about
(presumably) an NRO satellite program that didn't quite stay black.
I'm not sure I take your point, other than that you want to make sure
the tar sticks to the FBI and not to anyone else. I have the unfair
advantage on you that I only know what I read in the papers these days.

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If you want to self select like this
proverbal guy under the street light looking for dropped keys at
night,
you aren't going to think about things.

http://www.floridatoday.com/news/space/stories...
Most defense space projects over budget

This is a digression from your own question.

That article, the further examples I presented, and the NRO satellite

program all speak to the same thing. Government agencies notoriously
have a hard time executing. I didn't, and I don't, think your
invitation to consider the possibilities with other agencies shed any
light on my original question, which had to do with whether the
ambitious goal of "prognostic data mining" was plausible, short of a
space program type new technology effort.

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Try thinking about the usual (and less usual) conspiracy theory
agencies
if you want to consider the realm of possibilities independent of the
Bureau's bureaucracy:

CIA Virtual Case File is even possible?
NSA Virtual Case File is even possible?
G[S]IA Virtual Case File is even possible?
NRO Virtual Case File is even possible?

And then you can consider "even possible?"
Certainly not hardware architecture.

Maybe. It is definitely not my area of expertise. I didn't know what

would be required in hardware to guarantee security, accuracy, and
timeliness of the kind I was envisioning, and I still don't. I gather
that what I was envisioning is pure blue sky. All the fuss, I gather,
is over a glorified document management system.

RM
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