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Tom
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Wed Feb 18, 2004 5:52 pm Post subject:
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Hi!
Man, do I miss the time when you could backup the NT4 server with
ntbackup.exe ( don't get me wrong!! That's about the only thing I miss about
NT4!!!). The application was quite crappy, but if you had a singel server
with some kind of tape drive, the backup did just what you told it to do.
But, this is a bad application that MS really managed to make even
worse....!!!! Now, when the have implemented some kind of intelligence
(??!!????) by adding the rsm to the system, an unattended, scripted backup
isn't as simple to create as in the old days.
Sorry, had to get that one off my chest!
Does anyone have templates of WORKING command files, which would do the
following thing: Full backup once a week, Differential backup the rest of
the week nights, appended to the full backup tape?
I've been browsing the web searching for hints, but no luck.
Thanks, guys!!
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Christian Schindler
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Thu Feb 19, 2004 12:42 am Post subject:
Re: W2k/W2k3 Backup |
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What problems do you have with the RSM?
--
Christian Schindler
MCSA / MCSE / MCT / CCEA
Senior Consultant
NTx BackOffice Consulting Group Austria
mailto:cns@ntx.at
"Tom" <tom@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:eMQHP4h9DHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | Hi!
Man, do I miss the time when you could backup the NT4 server with
ntbackup.exe ( don't get me wrong!! That's about the only thing I miss
about
NT4!!!). The application was quite crappy, but if you had a singel server
with some kind of tape drive, the backup did just what you told it to do.
But, this is a bad application that MS really managed to make even
worse....!!!! Now, when the have implemented some kind of intelligence
(??!!????) by adding the rsm to the system, an unattended, scripted backup
isn't as simple to create as in the old days.
Sorry, had to get that one off my chest!
Does anyone have templates of WORKING command files, which would do the
following thing: Full backup once a week, Differential backup the rest of
the week nights, appended to the full backup tape?
I've been browsing the web searching for hints, but no luck.
Thanks, guys!!
- Tomppa -
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Tom
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Thu Feb 19, 2004 11:46 am Post subject:
Re: W2k/W2k3 Backup |
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Usually the only entry in the backup.log is:
The operation was not performed because the specified media cannot be found.
Is there any way to "go around" the media management and simply use the tape
that is inserted in the tapedrive?
- Tomppa -
"Christian Schindler" <christian.schindler@ntx.at> wrote in message
news:uK8Ujdl9DHA.1428@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | What problems do you have with the RSM?
--
Christian Schindler
MCSA / MCSE / MCT / CCEA
Senior Consultant
NTx BackOffice Consulting Group Austria
mailto:cns@ntx.at
"Tom" <tom@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:eMQHP4h9DHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
Hi!
Man, do I miss the time when you could backup the NT4 server with
ntbackup.exe ( don't get me wrong!! That's about the only thing I miss
about
NT4!!!). The application was quite crappy, but if you had a singel
server
with some kind of tape drive, the backup did just what you told it to
do.
But, this is a bad application that MS really managed to make even
worse....!!!! Now, when the have implemented some kind of intelligence
(??!!????) by adding the rsm to the system, an unattended, scripted
backup
isn't as simple to create as in the old days.
Sorry, had to get that one off my chest!
Does anyone have templates of WORKING command files, which would do the
following thing: Full backup once a week, Differential backup the rest
of
the week nights, appended to the full backup tape?
I've been browsing the web searching for hints, but no luck.
Thanks, guys!!
- Tomppa -
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Christian Schindler
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Fri Feb 20, 2004 3:43 am Post subject:
Re: W2k/W2k3 Backup |
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This is possible with the "/UM" switch. You must use this switch with
"/P"(=Poolname).
It's all documented in ntbackup help.
--
Christian Schindler
MCSA / MCSE / MCT / CCEA
Senior Consultant
NTx BackOffice Consulting Group Austria
mailto:cns@ntx.at
"Tom" <tom@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:ukAMTQr9DHA.2028@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | Usually the only entry in the backup.log is:
The operation was not performed because the specified media cannot be
found.
Is there any way to "go around" the media management and simply use the
tape
that is inserted in the tapedrive?
- Tomppa -
"Christian Schindler" <christian.schindler@ntx.at> wrote in message
news:uK8Ujdl9DHA.1428@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
What problems do you have with the RSM?
--
Christian Schindler
MCSA / MCSE / MCT / CCEA
Senior Consultant
NTx BackOffice Consulting Group Austria
mailto:cns@ntx.at
"Tom" <tom@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:eMQHP4h9DHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
Hi!
Man, do I miss the time when you could backup the NT4 server with
ntbackup.exe ( don't get me wrong!! That's about the only thing I miss
about
NT4!!!). The application was quite crappy, but if you had a singel
server
with some kind of tape drive, the backup did just what you told it to
do.
But, this is a bad application that MS really managed to make even
worse....!!!! Now, when the have implemented some kind of intelligence
(??!!????) by adding the rsm to the system, an unattended, scripted
backup
isn't as simple to create as in the old days.
Sorry, had to get that one off my chest!
Does anyone have templates of WORKING command files, which would do
the
following thing: Full backup once a week, Differential backup the rest
of
the week nights, appended to the full backup tape?
I've been browsing the web searching for hints, but no luck.
Thanks, guys!!
- Tomppa -
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Tom
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Fri Feb 20, 2004 7:03 pm Post subject:
Re: W2k/W2k3 Backup |
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Yep, works fine when you make a full backup every night to different tapes.
But /um -switch won't do no good when first making a full backup to a tape,
then appending differential backups to the same tape (maybe I'm wrong....?).
But, I think I'll use a Legato Networker Storage Node instead. That way I
can manage the backups/restores from the same management console as for all
the other servers.
Thanks though....
- Tomppa -
"Christian Schindler" <christian.schindler@ntx.at> wrote in message
news:u21PMnz9DHA.4080@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | This is possible with the "/UM" switch. You must use this switch with
"/P"(=Poolname).
It's all documented in ntbackup help.
--
Christian Schindler
MCSA / MCSE / MCT / CCEA
Senior Consultant
NTx BackOffice Consulting Group Austria
mailto:cns@ntx.at
"Tom" <tom@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:ukAMTQr9DHA.2028@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Usually the only entry in the backup.log is:
The operation was not performed because the specified media cannot be
found.
Is there any way to "go around" the media management and simply use the
tape
that is inserted in the tapedrive?
- Tomppa -
"Christian Schindler" <christian.schindler@ntx.at> wrote in message
news:uK8Ujdl9DHA.1428@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
What problems do you have with the RSM?
--
Christian Schindler
MCSA / MCSE / MCT / CCEA
Senior Consultant
NTx BackOffice Consulting Group Austria
mailto:cns@ntx.at
"Tom" <tom@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:eMQHP4h9DHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
Hi!
Man, do I miss the time when you could backup the NT4 server with
ntbackup.exe ( don't get me wrong!! That's about the only thing I
miss
about
NT4!!!). The application was quite crappy, but if you had a singel
server
with some kind of tape drive, the backup did just what you told it
to
do.
But, this is a bad application that MS really managed to make even
worse....!!!! Now, when the have implemented some kind of
intelligence
(??!!????) by adding the rsm to the system, an unattended, scripted
backup
isn't as simple to create as in the old days.
Sorry, had to get that one off my chest!
Does anyone have templates of WORKING command files, which would do
the
following thing: Full backup once a week, Differential backup the
rest
of
the week nights, appended to the full backup tape?
I've been browsing the web searching for hints, but no luck.
Thanks, guys!!
- Tomppa -
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Jordan
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Fri Mar 05, 2004 7:13 pm Post subject:
Re: W2k/W2k3 Backup |
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I have a 4MM DDS tape drive on my 2000 server. I opened backup and created
a full backup routine to backup all local drives and the System State and
saved it to "C:\Winnt\Full.bks". I then put the following line in the
scheduler to go off at midnight each night.
ntbackup backup "@C:\Winnt\Full.bks" /P "4mm DDS" /j "Full Backup with
System State" /um /v:yes /r:yes /rs:no /hc:on /m normal /l:s
Since I only have a single tape drive in this server I the /UM only has one
choice. I would guess that you could leave off the /UM and replace it with
the /a to append to the current media in the drive.
I am still in the early planning stages of this setup, but here is what I am
planning. I personally don't like leaving the full backup on site incase of
fire or flood so I do a full backup on the weekend and take the tape and
carry it in my carry bag to and from work. Then during the week I do a
differential to backup only the changed files since the last full backup and
take that tape as well in the morning. After each differential backup, I
return the previous nights to the fire box and only hold the last full and
the last differential so if the server crashes, I only need two tapes to
fully restore to the latest image.
For the Differential script I am not positive on what I am going to do
because I have not tested it, but I would believe it would be one of two
things. Either open the "Full.bks" file I created and change the backup
type in the options to differential and save it as Differential.bks and use
the same settings as above and replace "Full.bks". Or use the same
"Full.bks" file above and script, but modify it to change the backup type in
the script like this:
ntbackup backup "@C:\Winnt\Full.bks" /P "4mm DDS" /j "Full Backup with
System State" /um /m differential /v:yes /r:yes /rs:no /hc:on /m normal
/l:s
This is the same as the script as the top, but I added "/m diffential".
"Tom" <tom@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:ejT4Dp79DHA.1632@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | Yep, works fine when you make a full backup every night to different
tapes.
But /um -switch won't do no good when first making a full backup to a
tape,
then appending differential backups to the same tape (maybe I'm
wrong....?).
But, I think I'll use a Legato Networker Storage Node instead. That way I
can manage the backups/restores from the same management console as for
all
the other servers.
Thanks though....
- Tomppa -
"Christian Schindler" <christian.schindler@ntx.at> wrote in message
news:u21PMnz9DHA.4080@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
This is possible with the "/UM" switch. You must use this switch with
"/P"(=Poolname).
It's all documented in ntbackup help.
--
Christian Schindler
MCSA / MCSE / MCT / CCEA
Senior Consultant
NTx BackOffice Consulting Group Austria
mailto:cns@ntx.at
"Tom" <tom@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:ukAMTQr9DHA.2028@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Usually the only entry in the backup.log is:
The operation was not performed because the specified media cannot be
found.
Is there any way to "go around" the media management and simply use
the
tape
that is inserted in the tapedrive?
- Tomppa -
"Christian Schindler" <christian.schindler@ntx.at> wrote in message
news:uK8Ujdl9DHA.1428@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
What problems do you have with the RSM?
--
Christian Schindler
MCSA / MCSE / MCT / CCEA
Senior Consultant
NTx BackOffice Consulting Group Austria
mailto:cns@ntx.at
"Tom" <tom@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:eMQHP4h9DHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
Hi!
Man, do I miss the time when you could backup the NT4 server with
ntbackup.exe ( don't get me wrong!! That's about the only thing I
miss
about
NT4!!!). The application was quite crappy, but if you had a singel
server
with some kind of tape drive, the backup did just what you told it
to
do.
But, this is a bad application that MS really managed to make even
worse....!!!! Now, when the have implemented some kind of
intelligence
(??!!????) by adding the rsm to the system, an unattended,
scripted
backup
isn't as simple to create as in the old days.
Sorry, had to get that one off my chest!
Does anyone have templates of WORKING command files, which would
do
the
following thing: Full backup once a week, Differential backup the
rest
of
the week nights, appended to the full backup tape?
I've been browsing the web searching for hints, but no luck.
Thanks, guys!!
- Tomppa -
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Jordan
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Wed Mar 10, 2004 4:19 am Post subject:
Re: W2k/W2k3 Backup |
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Sorry, I mis-typed the command
ntbackup backup "@C:\Winnt\Full.bks" /P "4mm DDS" /j "Full Backup with
System State" /um /m differential /v:yes /r:yes /rs:no /hc:on /l:s
"Jordan" <nojunk_allowed@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:uYm39vrAEHA.3988@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | I have a 4MM DDS tape drive on my 2000 server. I opened backup and
created
a full backup routine to backup all local drives and the System State and
saved it to "C:\Winnt\Full.bks". I then put the following line in the
scheduler to go off at midnight each night.
ntbackup backup "@C:\Winnt\Full.bks" /P "4mm DDS" /j "Full Backup with
System State" /um /v:yes /r:yes /rs:no /hc:on /m normal /l:s
Since I only have a single tape drive in this server I the /UM only has
one
choice. I would guess that you could leave off the /UM and replace it
with
the /a to append to the current media in the drive.
I am still in the early planning stages of this setup, but here is what I
am
planning. I personally don't like leaving the full backup on site incase
of
fire or flood so I do a full backup on the weekend and take the tape and
carry it in my carry bag to and from work. Then during the week I do a
differential to backup only the changed files since the last full backup
and
take that tape as well in the morning. After each differential backup, I
return the previous nights to the fire box and only hold the last full and
the last differential so if the server crashes, I only need two tapes to
fully restore to the latest image.
For the Differential script I am not positive on what I am going to do
because I have not tested it, but I would believe it would be one of two
things. Either open the "Full.bks" file I created and change the backup
type in the options to differential and save it as Differential.bks and
use
the same settings as above and replace "Full.bks". Or use the same
"Full.bks" file above and script, but modify it to change the backup type
in
the script like this:
ntbackup backup "@C:\Winnt\Full.bks" /P "4mm DDS" /j "Full Backup with
System State" /um /m differential /v:yes /r:yes /rs:no /hc:on /m normal
/l:s
This is the same as the script as the top, but I added "/m diffential".
"Tom" <tom@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:ejT4Dp79DHA.1632@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
Yep, works fine when you make a full backup every night to different
tapes.
But /um -switch won't do no good when first making a full backup to a
tape,
then appending differential backups to the same tape (maybe I'm
wrong....?).
But, I think I'll use a Legato Networker Storage Node instead. That way
I
can manage the backups/restores from the same management console as for
all
the other servers.
Thanks though....
- Tomppa -
"Christian Schindler" <christian.schindler@ntx.at> wrote in message
news:u21PMnz9DHA.4080@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
This is possible with the "/UM" switch. You must use this switch with
"/P"(=Poolname).
It's all documented in ntbackup help.
--
Christian Schindler
MCSA / MCSE / MCT / CCEA
Senior Consultant
NTx BackOffice Consulting Group Austria
mailto:cns@ntx.at
"Tom" <tom@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:ukAMTQr9DHA.2028@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Usually the only entry in the backup.log is:
The operation was not performed because the specified media cannot
be
found.
Is there any way to "go around" the media management and simply use
the
tape
that is inserted in the tapedrive?
- Tomppa -
"Christian Schindler" <christian.schindler@ntx.at> wrote in message
news:uK8Ujdl9DHA.1428@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
What problems do you have with the RSM?
--
Christian Schindler
MCSA / MCSE / MCT / CCEA
Senior Consultant
NTx BackOffice Consulting Group Austria
mailto:cns@ntx.at
"Tom" <tom@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:eMQHP4h9DHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
Hi!
Man, do I miss the time when you could backup the NT4 server
with
ntbackup.exe ( don't get me wrong!! That's about the only thing
I
miss
about
NT4!!!). The application was quite crappy, but if you had a
singel
server
with some kind of tape drive, the backup did just what you told
it
to
do.
But, this is a bad application that MS really managed to make
even
worse....!!!! Now, when the have implemented some kind of
intelligence
(??!!????) by adding the rsm to the system, an unattended,
scripted
backup
isn't as simple to create as in the old days.
Sorry, had to get that one off my chest!
Does anyone have templates of WORKING command files, which would
do
the
following thing: Full backup once a week, Differential backup
the
rest
of
the week nights, appended to the full backup tape?
I've been browsing the web searching for hints, but no luck.
Thanks, guys!!
- Tomppa -
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