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Jerry Avins
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Sat Dec 10, 2005 1:16 am Post subject:
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The only connection with DSP is that many of us here enjoy teaching others.
A number of 12-year-old girls were beginning to use
lipstick and would put it on in the school bathroom.
That was fine, but after they put on their lipstick,
they would press their lips to the mirror leaving
dozens of little lip prints. Every night the
maintenance man would remove them and the next day
the girls would put them back. Several memos were
posted about this without effect.
Finally, the principal called all the girls to the
bathroom and met them there with the maintenance man.
She explained that all these lip prints were causing a
problem for the custodian who had to clean the
mirrors every night. To demonstrate how difficult it
was to clean the mirrors, she asked the maintenance
man to show the girls just how hard it was.
H took out a long-handled squeegee, dipped it into
the nearest toilet bowl, and scrubbed at the mirror.
Since then, there have been no lip prints.
There are Teachers, and then there are Educators.
Jerry
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Mike Yarwood
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Sat Dec 10, 2005 1:16 am Post subject:
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"Jerry Avins" <jya@ieee.org> wrote in message
news:GaOdnYC5Z-gsYATeRVn-tQ@rcn.net...
| Quote: | The only connection with DSP is that many of us here enjoy teaching
others.
H took out a long-handled squeegee, dipped it into
the nearest toilet bowl, and scrubbed at the mirror.
It just cracked me up! Thanks Jerry. |
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Tim Wescott
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Sat Dec 10, 2005 1:16 am Post subject:
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Jerry Avins wrote:
| Quote: | The only connection with DSP is that many of us here enjoy teaching others.
A number of 12-year-old girls were beginning to use
lipstick and would put it on in the school bathroom.
That was fine, but after they put on their lipstick,
they would press their lips to the mirror leaving
dozens of little lip prints. Every night the
maintenance man would remove them and the next day
the girls would put them back. Several memos were
posted about this without effect.
Finally, the principal called all the girls to the
bathroom and met them there with the maintenance man.
She explained that all these lip prints were causing a
problem for the custodian who had to clean the
mirrors every night. To demonstrate how difficult it
was to clean the mirrors, she asked the maintenance
man to show the girls just how hard it was.
H took out a long-handled squeegee, dipped it into
the nearest toilet bowl, and scrubbed at the mirror.
Since then, there have been no lip prints.
There are Teachers, and then there are Educators.
Jerry
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Very good.
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Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com |
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Randy Yates
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Sat Dec 10, 2005 9:15 am Post subject:
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Jerry Avins <jya@ieee.org> writes:
Is there something analogous for Jordan Normal Form?
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Jerry Avins
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Sat Dec 10, 2005 9:16 am Post subject:
Re: Almost completely off topic. |
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Randy Yates wrote:
| Quote: | Jerry Avins <jya@ieee.org> writes:
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Is there something analogous for Jordan Normal Form?
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Is that Michael Jordan? His normal form is unlikely to be duplicated for
a long time.
Jerry
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Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.
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Richard Owlett
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Sat Dec 10, 2005 3:21 pm Post subject:
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Jerry Avins wrote:
| Quote: | Randy Yates wrote:
Jerry Avins <jya@ieee.org> writes:
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Is there something analogous for Jordan Normal Form?
Is that Michael Jordan? His normal form is unlikely to be duplicated for
a long time.
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As on occasion people are serious on this forum, I Googled ;)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
"In linear algebra, the Jordan normal form, also called the Jordan
canonical form, named in honor of the 19th and early 20th century French
mathematician Camille Jordan, answers the question, for a given square
matrix M over a field K containing the eigenvalues of M, to what extent
can M be simplified into a standard shape by changing basis." |
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Randy Yates
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Sat Dec 10, 2005 5:15 pm Post subject:
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Richard Owlett <rowlett@atlascomm.net> writes:
| Quote: | Jerry Avins wrote:
Randy Yates wrote:
Jerry Avins <jya@ieee.org> writes:
[...]
Is there something analogous for Jordan Normal Form?
Is that Michael Jordan? His normal form is unlikely to be duplicated
for a long time.
As on occasion people are serious on this forum, I Googled ;)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
"In linear algebra, the Jordan normal form, also called the Jordan
canonical form, named in honor of the 19th and early 20th century
French mathematician Camille Jordan, answers the question, for a given
square matrix M over a field K containing the eigenvalues of M, to
what extent can M be simplified into a standard shape by changing
basis."
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Yes, that's the one.
I'm taking a graduate math class in Linear Algebra class this semester
and the professor spent weeks covering the simple stuff and then blew
through JNF in about three days. Meanwhile, about 30 hours of study
later, I'm almost getting it (thanks to Carl Meyer's book).
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%% Fuquay-Varina, NC % they'll kiss the ground you walk
%%% 919-577-9882 % upon."
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Carlos Moreno
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Sat Dec 10, 2005 5:16 pm Post subject:
Re: Almost completely off topic. |
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Randy Yates wrote:
| Quote: | Richard Owlett <rowlett@atlascomm.net> writes:
Jerry Avins wrote:
Randy Yates wrote:
Jerry Avins <jya@ieee.org> writes:
[...]
Is there something analogous for Jordan Normal Form?
Is that Michael Jordan? His normal form is unlikely to be duplicated
for a long time.
As on occasion people are serious on this forum, I Googled ;)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
"In linear algebra, the Jordan normal form, also called the Jordan
canonical form, named in honor of the 19th and early 20th century
French mathematician Camille Jordan, answers the question, for a given
square matrix M over a field K containing the eigenvalues of M, to
what extent can M be simplified into a standard shape by changing
basis."
Yes, that's the one.
I'm taking a graduate math class in Linear Algebra class this semester
and the professor spent weeks covering the simple stuff and then blew
through JNF in about three days. Meanwhile, about 30 hours of study
later, I'm almost getting it (thanks to Carl Meyer's book).
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Ok, but then it makes me wonder if my humor-impairment is reaching a
high-peak today and yesterday... I assumed that there was a humorous
implication in bringing this JNF in response to Jerry's post... ???
I figured it must have been because I was not familiar with the Jordan
stuff what you were referring to (which I wasn't), but now that you
uncovered it, I still don't see a humorous connotation, or even a
slight link/association with Jerry's post....
Help me out?
Carlos
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Eric Jacobsen
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 1:05 am Post subject:
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On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 10:25:27 -0500, Carlos Moreno
<moreno_at_mochima_dot_com@mailinator.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Ok, but then it makes me wonder if my humor-impairment is reaching a
high-peak today and yesterday... I assumed that there was a humorous
implication in bringing this JNF in response to Jerry's post... ???
I figured it must have been because I was not familiar with the Jordan
stuff what you were referring to (which I wasn't), but now that you
uncovered it, I still don't see a humorous connotation, or even a
slight link/association with Jerry's post....
Help me out?
Carlos
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I think Randy's just being very subtle. Since the point was about
teaching vs educating he's apparently frustrated with how his
instructor handled JNF...i.e., perhaps neither taught nor educated.
Definitely an inside joke on the first post, still subtle even after
the explanation.
Eric Jacobsen
Minister of Algorithms, Intel Corp.
My opinions may not be Intel's opinions.
http://www.ericjacobsen.org |
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Randy Yates
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 1:16 am Post subject:
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Carlos Moreno <moreno_at_mochima_dot_com@mailinator.com> writes:
| Quote: | Randy Yates wrote:
Richard Owlett <rowlett@atlascomm.net> writes:
Jerry Avins wrote:
Randy Yates wrote:
Jerry Avins <jya@ieee.org> writes:
[...]
Is there something analogous for Jordan Normal Form?
Is that Michael Jordan? His normal form is unlikely to be duplicated
for a long time.
As on occasion people are serious on this forum, I Googled ;)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
"In linear algebra, the Jordan normal form, also called the Jordan
canonical form, named in honor of the 19th and early 20th century
French mathematician Camille Jordan, answers the question, for a given
square matrix M over a field K containing the eigenvalues of M, to
what extent can M be simplified into a standard shape by changing
basis."
Yes, that's the one. I'm taking a graduate math class in Linear
Algebra class this semester
and the professor spent weeks covering the simple stuff and then blew
through JNF in about three days. Meanwhile, about 30 hours of study
later, I'm almost getting it (thanks to Carl Meyer's book).
Ok, but then it makes me wonder if my humor-impairment is reaching a
high-peak today and yesterday... I assumed that there was a humorous
implication in bringing this JNF in response to Jerry's post... ???
I figured it must have been because I was not familiar with the Jordan
stuff what you were referring to (which I wasn't), but now that you
uncovered it, I still don't see a humorous connotation, or even a
slight link/association with Jerry's post....
Help me out?
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Hi Carlos,
It's just a veiled way to bitch about having to study so hard,
that's all. Probably not funny at all. They both have to do
with education, so there is at least the weakest of links.
Jerry, I neglected to say to you thanks for making me smile.
Now back to finding basis vectors for my chaining subspaces...
-RY
PS: Eric and Bob, thanks for the support. I'm not sure I deserve
it in this case.
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%% Fuquay-Varina, NC % I saw... the ocean's daughter."
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Bob Cain
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 1:16 am Post subject:
Re: Almost completely off topic. |
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Carlos Moreno wrote:
| Quote: | Ok, but then it makes me wonder if my humor-impairment is reaching a
high-peak today and yesterday... I assumed that there was a humorous
implication in bringing this JNF in response to Jerry's post... ???
I figured it must have been because I was not familiar with the Jordan
stuff what you were referring to (which I wasn't), but now that you
uncovered it, I still don't see a humorous connotation, or even a
slight link/association with Jerry's post....
Help me out?
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It's humor through absurdity. Asking how to extend the principle from
something so simple to something so complex is absurd.
To the American culture, at least, this is found subtly humorous. Such
subtlety in humor often does not translate well to other cultures or
even to native speakers of another language. Even if you're not in that
class it would depend on your prior humor "conditioning."
Bob
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Carlos Moreno
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:15 am Post subject:
Re: Almost completely off topic. |
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Randy Yates wrote:
| Quote: | Yes, that's the one. I'm taking a graduate math class in Linear
Algebra class this semester
and the professor spent weeks covering the simple stuff and then blew
through JNF in about three days. Meanwhile, about 30 hours of study
later, I'm almost getting it (thanks to Carl Meyer's book).
Ok, but then it makes me wonder if my humor-impairment is reaching a
high-peak today and yesterday... I assumed that there was a humorous
implication in bringing this JNF in response to Jerry's post... ???
I figured it must have been because I was not familiar with the Jordan
stuff what you were referring to (which I wasn't), but now that you
uncovered it, I still don't see a humorous connotation, or even a
slight link/association with Jerry's post....
Help me out?
Hi Carlos,
It's just a veiled way to bitch about having to study so hard,
that's all. Probably not funny at all. They both have to do
with education, so there is at least the weakest of links.
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That's fair... I figured that might be the case, but somehow
something was telling me that there could be something more that
I was missing (we all have our "humor impaired days" every now
and then :-))
Cheers,
Carlos
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Joerg
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Wed Dec 14, 2005 8:01 am Post subject:
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Hello Jerry,
| Quote: | H took out a long-handled squeegee, dipped it into
the nearest toilet bowl, and scrubbed at the mirror.
Since then, there have been no lip prints.
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Supposedly that also works for frequent visitors who always manage to
show up just before dinner time. The saga goes that after the
involuntary hosts let the dog lick the plates clean and put them right
back into the cupboard these visitors never came back.
Regards, Joerg
http://www.analogconsultants.com |
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