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breezyyb
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Tue Dec 13, 2005 5:17 pm Post subject:
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I would like to transfer all my files and operating system to another
harddrive. I already have the hard drive up and running along with the old
harddrive. its been formatted and assigned a letter...do I just copy
everything to the new drive?
thanks...pennie |
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R. C. White
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Wed Dec 14, 2005 1:16 am Post subject:
Re: moving files |
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Hi, Pennie.
| Quote: | do I just copy
everything to the new drive?
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Well, yes...and no.
Depends mostly on HOW you "copy". I put "copy" in quotes because there are
several ways to duplicate a drive's contents, and only one of them uses the
Copy command. And it's not the best tool for the job you have in mind. It
won't copy Hidden, System and Read-only files, and those are what you need
most for the operating system. It won't copy the boot sector, because
that's not a file at all and not in any folder, and Windows won't boot
without it. And it won't copy the Registry, which holds lots of info about
your system, including all your installed programs and drivers.
Did your new HD come with a program like Ghost or Drive Image? Many new
drives do, and that is probably the tool you need to use. You probably will
see instructions to boot from the floppy or CD to run the program, because
trying to move Windows while you are running it is kind of like trying to do
open-heart surgery on yourself.
There are techniques to get the job done "the hard way", but if you got a
utility with the drive, it's probably easiest - and best - to use that. If
you don't have such a program, please post back for the longer instructions.
Be sure and mention which Windows (WinNT, Win9x/ME, Win2K/XP?) you are
running. And it might be important to know the sizes and interfaces (SCSI?
SATA? EIDE?) of the two HDs, too, and how they are partitioned (sounds like
they are both single-partition, but it would be comforting to know for
sure). Heck, we wouldn't even mind if you tell us the make and model of
your computer. ;^}
RC
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R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
"breezyyb" <breezyyb@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I would like to transfer all my files and operating system to another
harddrive. I already have the hard drive up and running along with the old
harddrive. its been formatted and assigned a letter...do I just copy
everything to the new drive?
thanks...pennie |
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breezyyb
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Thu Dec 15, 2005 1:17 am Post subject:
Re: moving files |
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ok-first off. I run windowsXP, the computer is an HP, couple yrs old. I have
348MB mem and I want to get the files off my 30GB drive to the 40GB drive. I
have heard of those utilities your talking about, and I think I will give
that a try. both drives are partioned one with "c" & "D", the other with "G &
H". I am alwwasy willing to listen to more advice...NO PROBLEM...the hard
drive came out of another computer...on the bigger hard dirve the partion
stlye(?)is MBR if that helps any. I will look for further advice ...thanks!!!!
"R. C. White" wrote:
| Quote: | Hi, Pennie.
do I just copy
everything to the new drive?
Well, yes...and no.
Depends mostly on HOW you "copy". I put "copy" in quotes because there are
several ways to duplicate a drive's contents, and only one of them uses the
Copy command. And it's not the best tool for the job you have in mind. It
won't copy Hidden, System and Read-only files, and those are what you need
most for the operating system. It won't copy the boot sector, because
that's not a file at all and not in any folder, and Windows won't boot
without it. And it won't copy the Registry, which holds lots of info about
your system, including all your installed programs and drivers.
Did your new HD come with a program like Ghost or Drive Image? Many new
drives do, and that is probably the tool you need to use. You probably will
see instructions to boot from the floppy or CD to run the program, because
trying to move Windows while you are running it is kind of like trying to do
open-heart surgery on yourself.
There are techniques to get the job done "the hard way", but if you got a
utility with the drive, it's probably easiest - and best - to use that. If
you don't have such a program, please post back for the longer instructions.
Be sure and mention which Windows (WinNT, Win9x/ME, Win2K/XP?) you are
running. And it might be important to know the sizes and interfaces (SCSI?
SATA? EIDE?) of the two HDs, too, and how they are partitioned (sounds like
they are both single-partition, but it would be comforting to know for
sure). Heck, we wouldn't even mind if you tell us the make and model of
your computer. ;^}
RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
"breezyyb" <breezyyb@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4B8FB153-6217-4E84-B68F-7092D322742E@microsoft.com...
I would like to transfer all my files and operating system to another
harddrive. I already have the hard drive up and running along with the old
harddrive. its been formatted and assigned a letter...do I just copy
everything to the new drive?
thanks...pennie
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breezyyb
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Thu Dec 15, 2005 3:41 pm Post subject:
Re: moving files |
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I anted to add, I partioned the new hard drive using computer management, "G"
& "H" are both primary and NTFS. without taking the computer apart again, the
hard drive in device manager is called "ST340810A" the old hard drive is a
samsung SV3012H. I hope this is the info your asking for...thanks again for
any help...pennie
"breezyyb" wrote:
| Quote: | ok-first off. I run windowsXP, the computer is an HP, couple yrs old. I have
348MB mem and I want to get the files off my 30GB drive to the 40GB drive. I
have heard of those utilities your talking about, and I think I will give
that a try. both drives are partioned one with "c" & "D", the other with "G &
H". I am alwwasy willing to listen to more advice...NO PROBLEM...the hard
drive came out of another computer...on the bigger hard dirve the partion
stlye(?)is MBR if that helps any. I will look for further advice ...thanks!!!!
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R. C. White
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Thu Dec 15, 2005 5:16 pm Post subject:
Re: moving files |
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Hi, Pennie.
Have you actually had a problem in copying your HD? Or are you trying to
anticipate any problems and head them off before you begin the copy?
WinXP is a bit cramped with only 348 MB RAM, but it should work, even if
kind of slow. More RAM would help your system more than a new hard drive,
and the price is reasonable now.
Which transfer utility came with your new HD? "ST340810A" sounds like a
Seagate part number. See this page for details about it:
http://www.seagate.com/cda/products/discsales/marketing/detail/0,1081,372,00.html
There is a link there to a PDF version of the Installation Guide. The first
paragraph of that guide tells how to install the drive, using Seagate's
DiscWizard that is included with the drive, but it doesn't say how to
transfer the operating system from the old drive. You've already done the
installation with Disk Management, so you don't need DiscWizard.
But you still need a transfer utility to move the operating system. If none
was in the box with the drive, then you'll need something like Ghost or
Drive Image.
Or you can simply remove the old HD and install the new one as your Primary
Master. Then boot from the WinXP CD-ROM and do a clean install onto the new
HD. (If you like, WinXP Setup will repartition and reformat the drive
before installing WinXP.) As soon as you get your firewall and antivirus
working again, visit Windows Update to be sure that you have SP2 and all the
post-SP2 fixes in place. After your new WinXP is up and running, you can
shut down and reinstall your old HD as slave or secondary and use Disk
Management to reassign drive letters to its partitions. You will need to
reinstall your applications, but you can simply copy all your data from the
old drive. Sometimes it's worth the trouble to "start over with a clean
slate", dumping all the leftovers and deadwood that have accumulated on our
hard drives since our last clean install. It might take a few extra hours,
depending on how many apps you must reinstall, but they might run faster and
smoother afterwards. Only you can decide if that's a good idea in your
case.
RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
"breezyyb" <breezyyb@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7662BA81-8214-49ED-A57F-84F298158502@microsoft.com...
| Quote: | I anted to add, I partioned the new hard drive using computer management,
"G"
& "H" are both primary and NTFS. without taking the computer apart again,
the
hard drive in device manager is called "ST340810A" the old hard drive is a
samsung SV3012H. I hope this is the info your asking for...thanks again
for
any help...pennie
"breezyyb" wrote:
ok-first off. I run windowsXP, the computer is an HP, couple yrs old. I
have
348MB mem and I want to get the files off my 30GB drive to the 40GB
drive. I
have heard of those utilities your talking about, and I think I will give
that a try. both drives are partioned one with "c" & "D", the other with
"G &
H". I am alwwasy willing to listen to more advice...NO PROBLEM...the hard
drive came out of another computer...on the bigger hard dirve the partion
stlye(?)is MBR if that helps any. I will look for further advice
...thanks!!!! |
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breezyyb
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Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:07 am Post subject:
Re: moving files |
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welllll...I got the utility called "Acronis true image" and I have the the
exact copy (image I guess), of the old drive on the new drive. the
OS...everything, and it told me that I should unhook the old one when it was
done, and it would boot from the new drive...but it didnt. yet. the jumper,
can I take it out completley?I think that is why it didnt reboot at that
time. so I hooked it all back the way it was and checked the drives and
everything is on the new drives. according to computer management, "G" is
healthy (active)primary, the old drive "C" says healthy(system)primary. I
guess i am afraid to try to do anything because I just am not sure what I can
do. this is the first time I have ever done this sort of thiing...heck,I am
so new at this, I am wet behind the ears yet!! so I sure am grateful for any
help and or advice you give!! but, thats where I am at, this wasnt a new hard
drive to start with, it was out of an old computer, and I took and formatted
it to use with this computer...
and about the monory, I had another 256, but it pooped out on me, so this
is like a spare..I will be eagerly waiting for your
advice and/or instructions!! thanks!!! pennie
r"R. C. White" wrote:
| Quote: | Hi, Pennie.
Have you actually had a problem in copying your HD? Or are you trying to
anticipate any problems and head them off before you begin the copy?
WinXP is a bit cramped with only 348 MB RAM, but it should work, even if
kind of slow. More RAM would help your system more than a new hard drive,
and the price is reasonable now.
Which transfer utility came with your new HD? "ST340810A" sounds like a
Seagate part number. See this page for details about it:
http://www.seagate.com/cda/products/discsales/marketing/detail/0,1081,372,00.html
There is a link there to a PDF version of the Installation Guide. The first
paragraph of that guide tells how to install the drive, using Seagate's
DiscWizard that is included with the drive, but it doesn't say how to
transfer the operating system from the old drive. You've already done the
installation with Disk Management, so you don't need DiscWizard.
But you still need a transfer utility to move the operating system. If none
was in the box with the drive, then you'll need something like Ghost or
Drive Image.
Or you can simply remove the old HD and install the new one as your Primary
Master. Then boot from the WinXP CD-ROM and do a clean install onto the new
HD. (If you like, WinXP Setup will repartition and reformat the drive
before installing WinXP.) As soon as you get your firewall and antivirus
working again, visit Windows Update to be sure that you have SP2 and all the
post-SP2 fixes in place. After your new WinXP is up and running, you can
shut down and reinstall your old HD as slave or secondary and use Disk
Management to reassign drive letters to its partitions. You will need to
reinstall your applications, but you can simply copy all your data from the
old drive. Sometimes it's worth the trouble to "start over with a clean
slate", dumping all the leftovers and deadwood that have accumulated on our
hard drives since our last clean install. It might take a few extra hours,
depending on how many apps you must reinstall, but they might run faster and
smoother afterwards. Only you can decide if that's a good idea in your
case.
RC
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R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
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breezyyb
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| Posted:
Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:17 am Post subject:
Re: moving files |
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just wanted to let you know that it all worked out, turns out that what I
needed to do was to go online and get a "users manual"(for lack of a better
word), on the SEAGATE harddrive...and move the jumper to the master postion
and WAAA~LAAA
I am up and running on the new hard drive without a hitch!! now to grab some
more memory and I will be set...so thanks alot for your advice and help, one
thing lead to another and by golly...I got it!! :)
pennie |
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R. C. White
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Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:44 am Post subject:
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Hi, Pennie.
Congratulations! And thanks for letting us know.
Now, enjoy! You've earned it.
And WinXP should run much faster and smoother with the new RAM. The "sweet
spot" seems to be 512 MB these days. More will still help, but the yield
curve starts flattening after 512, it seems.
RC
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R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
"breezyyb" <breezyyb@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:029DE75C-CCF1-4FC6-8854-9E07BF7C4900@microsoft.com...
| Quote: | just wanted to let you know that it all worked out, turns out that what I
needed to do was to go online and get a "users manual"(for lack of a
better
word), on the SEAGATE harddrive...and move the jumper to the master
postion
and WAAA~LAAA
I am up and running on the new hard drive without a hitch!! now to grab
some
more memory and I will be set...so thanks alot for your advice and help,
one
thing lead to another and by golly...I got it!! :)
pennie |
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