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Eric Smith
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:15 am    Post subject: ISE 8.1i on Fedora Core 4 (64-bit) Reply with quote

In general, ISE 8.1i seems to install and work just fine on my Athlon 64
system running Fedora Core 4 (64-bit).

ISE Simulator does not seem to get installed, though. I'll try
installing on a 32-bit system later and see if that gets it.

And unfortunately there still aren't 64-bit cable drivers for use with
the Parallel Cable IV or the Platform Cable USB. I started trying to
build them myself from the Xilinx "sources" and the Jungo demo kit, but
Xilinx supplies the core of the XPC4 driver as a binary archive, and
they don't supply a 64-bit version of that.

Sigh.

Could we have some 64-bit cable drivers, pretty please?

It's nice being able to run Project Navigator and do everything up
through the programming file generation on my main development machine,
instead of needing a second machine with very old software (RHEL3) for
that. But it looks like I'll still need a second machine to run Impact.

I'm considering buying Chipscope, but I think I'll hold off until
there are 64-bit cable drivers.
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Antti Lukats
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:15 am    Post subject: Re: ISE 8.1i on Fedora Core 4 (64-bit) Reply with quote

"Eric Smith" <eric@brouhaha.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:qhr78da1qd.fsf@ruckus.brouhaha.com...
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GaLaKtIkUs wrote:
Did you get the drivers of ISE7.1i 32bits work on FC4-32bits at full
speed?

I didn't try. I set up a system running CentOS 3.5 32-bit (though it's
64-bit hardware), and 7.1i worked fine on that, including cable drivers
(after I compiled them).

So now I have a Belkin 4 port USB-and-DVI KVM switch, and go back and
forth between that and my main development machine (FC4 64-bit). That
KVM switch is a total piece of crap, buy the way, so don't buy one.
(Details below for the curious.)

Now that I'm using 8.1i, I might try installing FC4 32-bit on that
machine instead. Aside from the cable drivers and ISE simulator, 8.1i
installed beautifully on FC4 64-bit, with none of the hassles for
different versions of shared libraries and special environment variable
settings that were needed for 7.1i.

But I *really* would much rather be able to program from my main
development machine. I briefly considered trying to reverse-engineer
the ioctl_3.a file, but I suspect that would violate the ISE license
agreement, and anyhow, life's too short.

It's hard to believe that there are any significant trade secrets in
ioctl_3.a; maybe Xilinx can be convinced to give out the source for it.


Xilinx is trying to keep the Cable IV internals as secret so thats
why they dont release in source code anything that could
include information how to talk to the cable IV in high speed
mode.

And that is also the reason why there Cable IV support
is as shit as it is. On my main computer where all ECP
port cable from other vendors work properly, well
Cable IV works in Cable III emulation mode only.
Its an WinXP machine so the problems are not
only on linus

BTW the Cable IV PLD is non protected and resoldering
a few 0 ohms on the PCB makes Impact able to read
back the JEDED file from the XC3384, and I have a
tool that converts the JEDEC to synthesizeable VHDL :)

Antti
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Eric Smith
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:15 am    Post subject: Re: ISE 8.1i on Fedora Core 4 (64-bit) Reply with quote

GaLaKtIkUs wrote:
Quote:
Did you get the drivers of ISE7.1i 32bits work on FC4-32bits at full
speed?

I didn't try. I set up a system running CentOS 3.5 32-bit (though it's
64-bit hardware), and 7.1i worked fine on that, including cable drivers
(after I compiled them).

So now I have a Belkin 4 port USB-and-DVI KVM switch, and go back and
forth between that and my main development machine (FC4 64-bit). That
KVM switch is a total piece of crap, buy the way, so don't buy one.
(Details below for the curious.)

Now that I'm using 8.1i, I might try installing FC4 32-bit on that
machine instead. Aside from the cable drivers and ISE simulator, 8.1i
installed beautifully on FC4 64-bit, with none of the hassles for
different versions of shared libraries and special environment variable
settings that were needed for 7.1i.

But I *really* would much rather be able to program from my main
development machine. I briefly considered trying to reverse-engineer
the ioctl_3.a file, but I suspect that would violate the ISE license
agreement, and anyhow, life's too short.

It's hard to believe that there are any significant trade secrets in
ioctl_3.a; maybe Xilinx can be convinced to give out the source for it.

Eric


Belkin 4-port USB-and-DVI KVM problems:

1) mechanical - can't plug the DVI cable onto port 1 of the KVM due
to lip of plastic housing, effectively making it a 3-port KVM

2) electrial - rather than having four DVI receivers, a mux, and
a DVI driver, the KVM uses *relays* to switch the DVI signals.
This results in enough signal degradation that I occassionally
get twinkling pixel streaks. Ugh.

3) firmware (?) - the KVM sporadically loses key events. Sometimes
pressing a key does nothing, and sometimes a key up event is lost,
so the key starts repeating even though it's been released.

I wouldn't have gotten the KVM switch at all, since I can use X over
the network easily enough, but while I was trying to get drivers working
I was rebooting the machine frequently and needed to see the screen
during the boot process.
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GaLaKtIkUs™
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:15 am    Post subject: Re: ISE 8.1i on Fedora Core 4 (64-bit) Reply with quote

Hi Eric,
Did you get the drivers of ISE7.1i 32bits work on FC4-32bits at full
speed?

Mehdi
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