Avnet hav2 s3e starter kit?
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Alex Gibson
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:15 am    Post subject: Avnet hav2 s3e starter kit? Reply with quote
According to
<http://www.em.avnet.com/evk/home/0,1719,RID%253D0%2526CID%253D27812%2526CCD%253DUSA%2526SID%253D4742%2526DID%253DDF2%2526SRT%253D1%2526LID%253D18806%2526PVW%253D%2526BID%253DDF2%2526CTP%253DEVK,00.html>

The spartan 3e starter kits are available yet xilinx says they are not ?

Alex
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Antti Lukats
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:15 am    Post subject: Re: Avnet hav2 s3e starter kit? Reply with quote
"Antti Lukats" <antti@openchip.org> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:dntnb5$3d1$1@online.de...
Quote:
"Alex Gibson" <alxx.nospam@nospam.tpg.com.nospam.au> schrieb im
Newsbeitrag news:40f560F19kqhsU1@individual.net...
According to
http://www.em.avnet.com/evk/home/0,1719,RID%253D0%2526CID%253D27812%2526CCD%253DUSA%2526SID%253D4742%2526DID%253DDF2%2526SRT%253D1%2526LID%253D18806%2526PVW%253D%2526BID%253DDF2%2526CTP%253DEVK,00.html

The spartan 3e starter kits are available yet xilinx says they are not ?

Alex


6 weeks ago Avnet told me that they have already shipped 400 pieces of the
s3e kit.
and I belive they did not lie about that.

the only s3e I have seen on board from cesys
http://www.cesys.de/index.php?language=en&doc=advanced&docparams=USB3FPGA&menuparams=53

so at least one company is actually shipping s3e boards
(I assume avent is not shipping as they are out of stock..or are those 18
boards they had still unsold?)

Antti


uups, I did not check out your link, I dont have any idea if Avnet shipping

the 500E board,
they have shipped 100e boards for sure, and as others are shipping 500e
based boards I
guess avent may as well have them ready for shipping.

so its only Xilinx itself who is delaying with dev board releases

Antti
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Antti Lukats
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:15 am    Post subject: Re: Avnet hav2 s3e starter kit? Reply with quote
"Alex Gibson" <alxx.nospam@nospam.tpg.com.nospam.au> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:40f560F19kqhsU1@individual.net...
Quote:
According to
http://www.em.avnet.com/evk/home/0,1719,RID%253D0%2526CID%253D27812%2526CCD%253DUSA%2526SID%253D4742%2526DID%253DDF2%2526SRT%253D1%2526LID%253D18806%2526PVW%253D%2526BID%253DDF2%2526CTP%253DEVK,00.html

The spartan 3e starter kits are available yet xilinx says they are not ?

Alex


6 weeks ago Avnet told me that they have already shipped 400 pieces of the
s3e kit.
and I belive they did not lie about that.

the only s3e I have seen on board from cesys
http://www.cesys.de/index.php?language=en&doc=advanced&docparams=USB3FPGA&menuparams=53

so at least one company is actually shipping s3e boards
(I assume avent is not shipping as they are out of stock..or are those 18
boards they had still unsold?)

Antti
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Brian Davis
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Avnet hav2 s3e starter kit? Reply with quote
John_H wrote:
Quote:

There's still no information on the Avnet site beyond the one-page
product brief. At least it *looks* like an S3E board! Now if I could
read those connector part numbers....


The high speed connnector is the same one as used on the
Digilent/Xilinx XUPV2P board:
http://www.xilinx.com/univ/xupv2p.html
http://www.digilentinc.com/info/XUPV2P.cfm

The softtouch connector footprint routing pictured in the Avnet
datasheet appears to indicate there's provision for at least some
differential pairs to the connector, have to wait for the released
schematics and layout files to be sure.

Brian
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Antti Lukats
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Avnet hav2 s3e starter kit? Reply with quote
"John_H" <johnhandwork@mail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:irAof.3$Ht4.2@trnddc08...
Quote:
Alex Gibson wrote:

According to
http://www.em.avnet.com/evk/home/0,1719,RID%253D0%2526CID%253D27812%2526CCD%253DUSA%2526SID%253D4742%2526DID%253DDF2%2526SRT%253D1%2526LID%253D18806%2526PVW%253D%2526BID%253DDF2%2526CTP%253DEVK,00.html

The spartan 3e starter kits are available yet xilinx says they are not ?

Alex

If you hit the "Buy Now" button the following info pops up:

* Lead Time (weeks): Call
* Status: NCNR, Backorder

Maybe Xilinx is doing it better by saying "Notify me when available" in
blace of "Add to Cart."


the avnet 100e board is still in stock, surprisingly the stock
count have increased from 18 to 83 ??
with lead time of 26 weeks...!?

Quote:
There's still no information on the Avnet site beyond the one-page product
brief. At least it *looks* like an S3E board! Now if I could read those
connector part numbers....

Since - at the moment - the Xilinx link
http://www.xilinx.com/xlnx/xebiz/designResources/ip_product_details.jsp?key=DO-SPAR3E-DK
is dead, there may be an imminent update.
we need to wait then :(


antti
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John_H
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Avnet hav2 s3e starter kit? Reply with quote
Alex Gibson wrote:

Quote:
According to
http://www.em.avnet.com/evk/home/0,1719,RID%253D0%2526CID%253D27812%2526CCD%253DUSA%2526SID%253D4742%2526DID%253DDF2%2526SRT%253D1%2526LID%253D18806%2526PVW%253D%2526BID%253DDF2%2526CTP%253DEVK,00.html

The spartan 3e starter kits are available yet xilinx says they are not ?

Alex

If you hit the "Buy Now" button the following info pops up:

* Lead Time (weeks): Call
* Status: NCNR, Backorder

Maybe Xilinx is doing it better by saying "Notify me when available" in
blace of "Add to Cart."

There's still no information on the Avnet site beyond the one-page
product brief. At least it *looks* like an S3E board! Now if I could
read those connector part numbers....

Since - at the moment - the Xilinx link
http://www.xilinx.com/xlnx/xebiz/designResources/ip_product_details.jsp?key=DO-SPAR3E-DK
is dead, there may be an imminent update.
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Steve Knapp (Xilinx Spart
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 1:14 am    Post subject: Re: Avnet hav2 s3e starter kit? Reply with quote
Antti Lukats wrote:
Quote:
"John_H" <johnhandwork@mail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:irAof.3$Ht4.2@trnddc08...
Alex Gibson wrote:

According to
http://www.em.avnet.com/evk/home/0,1719,RID%253D0%2526CID%253D27812%2526CCD%253DUSA%2526SID%253D4742%2526DID%253DDF2%2526SRT%253D1%2526LID%253D18806%2526PVW%253D%2526BID%253DDF2%2526CTP%253DEVK,00.html

The spartan 3e starter kits are available yet xilinx says they are not ?

Alex

If you hit the "Buy Now" button the following info pops up:

* Lead Time (weeks): Call
* Status: NCNR, Backorder

Maybe Xilinx is doing it better by saying "Notify me when available" in
blace of "Add to Cart."


the avnet 100e board is still in stock, surprisingly the stock
count have increased from 18 to 83 ??
with lead time of 26 weeks...!?

There's still no information on the Avnet site beyond the one-page product
brief. At least it *looks* like an S3E board! Now if I could read those
connector part numbers....

Since - at the moment - the Xilinx link
http://www.xilinx.com/xlnx/xebiz/designResources/ip_product_details.jsp?key=DO-SPAR3E-DK
is dead, there may be an imminent update.
we need to wait then :(

antti
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Antti Lukats
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 1:15 am    Post subject: Re: Avnet hav2 s3e starter kit? Reply with quote
"John_H" <johnhandwork@mail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:eEFof.83$lb5.41@news-west.eli.net...
Quote:
"Steve Knapp (Xilinx Spartan-3 Generation FPGAs)" <steve.knapp@xilinx.com
wrote in message
news:1134761443.681907.191430@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
The Spartan-3E Starter Kit board will be available in roughly two
weeks. You can sign up to receive E-mail notification when order entry
is opened.
snip

So no Christmas this year!
And here I was hoping "available in December" was a tease for the present
pile rather than a New Year's eve party favor.

Thanks for the updates, Steve.


uups! I did think (silly me) that what Steve was referring to was that avnet
will ship
their s3e500 board in 2 weeks, as Xilinx promised the their S3e starterkit
in December!

well roughly 2 weeks means defenetly after christmas and possible not in
2005 at all.

meaning that the only boards shipped from public online orders this year
could be
1) s3e-100 eval from avnet
2) s3e-500 usb board from cesys
3) or is there any other s3e board already been shipped to customers
(available for general public orders!)?

but the xilinx s3e-starter board has most bang for the buck so it pays to
wait for it of course

Antti
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Guest
Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 1:15 am    Post subject: Re: Avnet hav2 s3e starter kit? Reply with quote
The price is ridiculously low.. u guys are gonna kill the competition,
and your partners which are selling sub $200 fpga board too. If im not
mistaken, there will be a usb downloader (usb platform cable) as an
additional goody? Any idea when we'll see XC3S-E up for sale on the
xilinx website?



Steve Knapp (Xilinx Spartan-3 Generation FPGAs) wrote:
Quote:
The Spartan-3E Starter Kit board will be available in roughly two
weeks. You can sign up to receive E-mail notification when order entry
is opened.
http://www.xilinx.com/xlnx/xebiz/utils/availabilityform.jsp?key=HW-SPAR3E-DK

The board was delayed for a good reason. Two of our board partners
upgraded the Flash and DDR SDRAM memory -- now twice the density of the
previous description at no additional cost!
---------------------------------
Steven K. Knapp
Applications Manager, Xilinx Inc.
General Products Division
Spartan-3/-3E FPGAs
http://www.xilinx.com/spartan3e
---------------------------------
The Spartan(tm)-3 Generation: The World's Lowest-Cost FPGAs.
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John_H
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 1:15 am    Post subject: Re: Avnet hav2 s3e starter kit? Reply with quote
"Steve Knapp (Xilinx Spartan-3 Generation FPGAs)" <steve.knapp@xilinx.com>
wrote in message
news:1134761443.681907.191430@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
The Spartan-3E Starter Kit board will be available in roughly two
weeks. You can sign up to receive E-mail notification when order entry
is opened.
snip


So no Christmas this year!
And here I was hoping "available in December" was a tease for the present
pile rather than a New Year's eve party favor.

Thanks for the updates, Steve.
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Steve Knapp (Xilinx Spart
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 1:15 am    Post subject: Re: Avnet hav2 s3e starter kit? Reply with quote
Aaaargh!

Pilot error on my part. My apology.

This is why I like redirects. Here is a better link to the Xilinx
Spartan-3E Starter Kit board web page.


http://www.xilinx.com/s3estarter


.... which redirects to the correct location ...


http://www.xilinx.com/xlnx/xebiz/designResources/ip_product_details.j...



---------------------------------
Steven K. Knapp
Applications Manager, Xilinx Inc.
General Products Division
Spartan-3/-3E FPGAs
http://www.xilinx.com/spartan3e
---------------------------------
The Spartan(tm)-3 Generation: The World's Lowest-Cost FPGAs.
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Antti Lukats
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 1:15 am    Post subject: Re: Avnet hav2 s3e starter kit? Reply with quote
"Steve Knapp (Xilinx Spartan-3 Generation FPGAs)" <steve.knapp@xilinx.com>
schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:1134761443.681907.191430@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
The Spartan-3E Starter Kit board will be available in roughly two
weeks. You can sign up to receive E-mail notification when order entry
is opened.
http://www.xilinx.com/xlnx/xebiz/utils/availabilityform.jsp?key=HW-SPAR3E-DK

The board was delayed for a good reason. Two of our board partners
upgraded the Flash and DDR SDRAM memory -- now twice the density of the
previous description at no additional cost!
---------------------------------
Steven K. Knapp
Applications Manager, Xilinx Inc.
General Products Division
Spartan-3/-3E FPGAs
http://www.xilinx.com/spartan3e
---------------------------------
The Spartan(tm)-3 Generation: The World's Lowest-Cost FPGAs.


so whats the target date?
it was promised in December but its still only 'register for notification'
what effectivly says nothing.

Antti
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Steve Knapp (Xilinx Spart
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 1:15 am    Post subject: Re: Avnet hav2 s3e starter kit? Reply with quote
The Spartan-3E Starter Kit board will be available in roughly two
weeks. You can sign up to receive E-mail notification when order entry
is opened.
http://www.xilinx.com/xlnx/xebiz/utils/availabilityform.jsp?key=HW-SPAR3E-DK

The board was delayed for a good reason. Two of our board partners
upgraded the Flash and DDR SDRAM memory -- now twice the density of the
previous description at no additional cost!
---------------------------------
Steven K. Knapp
Applications Manager, Xilinx Inc.
General Products Division
Spartan-3/-3E FPGAs
http://www.xilinx.com/spartan3e
---------------------------------
The Spartan(tm)-3 Generation: The World's Lowest-Cost FPGAs.
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Steve Knapp (Xilinx Spart
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 1:15 am    Post subject: Re: Avnet hav2 s3e starter kit? Reply with quote
Possibly Avnet was referring to their Spartan-3E Evaluation Kit, which
has an XC3S100E FPGA on it. This board has been shipping for awhile.

http://www.em.avnet.com/evk/home/0,1719,RID%253D0%2526CID%253D21564%2526CCD%253DUSA%2526SID%253D4742%2526DID%253DDF2%2526SRT%253D1%2526LID%253D18806%2526PVW%253D%2526BID%253DDF2%2526CTP%253DEVK,00.html

The XC3S500E-based Spartan-3E Starter Kit board should be available in
the next few weeks.

http://www.em.avnet.com/evk/home/0,1719,RID%253D0%2526CID%253D27812%2526CCD%253DUSA%2526SID%253D4742%2526DID%253DDF2%2526SRT%253D1%2526LID%253D18806%2526PVW%253D%2526BID%253DDF2%2526CTP%253DEVK,00.html

---------------------------------
Steven K. Knapp
Applications Manager, Xilinx Inc.
General Products Division
Spartan-3/-3E FPGAs
http://www.xilinx.com/spartan3e
---------------------------------
The Spartan(tm)-3 Generation: The World's Lowest-Cost FPGAs.
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Antti Lukats
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 1:15 am    Post subject: Re: Avnet hav2 s3e starter kit? Reply with quote
"Steve Knapp (Xilinx Spartan-3 Generation FPGAs)" <steve.knapp@xilinx.com>
schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:1134760472.944638.229070@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Quote:

Antti Lukats wrote:
"John_H" <johnhandwork@mail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:irAof.3$Ht4.2@trnddc08...
Alex Gibson wrote:

According to
http://www.em.avnet.com/evk/home/0,1719,RID%253D0%2526CID%253D27812%2526CCD%253DUSA%2526SID%253D4742%2526DID%253DDF2%2526SRT%253D1%2526LID%253D18806%2526PVW%253D%2526BID%253DDF2%2526CTP%253DEVK,00.html

The spartan 3e starter kits are available yet xilinx says they are
not ?

Alex

If you hit the "Buy Now" button the following info pops up:

* Lead Time (weeks): Call
* Status: NCNR, Backorder

Maybe Xilinx is doing it better by saying "Notify me when available" in
blace of "Add to Cart."


the avnet 100e board is still in stock, surprisingly the stock
count have increased from 18 to 83 ??
with lead time of 26 weeks...!?

There's still no information on the Avnet site beyond the one-page
product
brief. At least it *looks* like an S3E board! Now if I could read
those
connector part numbers....

Since - at the moment - the Xilinx link
http://www.xilinx.com/xlnx/xebiz/designResources/ip_product_details.jsp?key=DO-SPAR3E-DK
is dead, there may be an imminent update.
we need to wait then :(

antti


what was this!?
Steve you just quoted my posting back to newsgroup without any comments
added?

am I blind or did I tell all what there is to tell :)

The link above to S3e starterkit at Xilinx is still dead.... so the wait is
on as usual

Antti
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