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dr
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:06 am    Post subject: three 'where to find?' hardware questons.... Reply with quote

story is that I'm just more of sketching this mini-system idea into
notes and quick diagrams on paper but if it seem good enough and not
that expensive I might try get it onto a prototype board at some date.

where would one find a supplier of floppy controllers?
(I only could find old database pages underneath a lot of linux faq
sites so....I had to wonder)

if you had used any what was your choice of ide controller? (name too)

is Texas Instruments the only supplier or someone else also makes
firewire PHY and host controller ics? (I'm looking for the 1349A
100/200/400mbps type)

well thats all I can think of right now, thanks very much for any help.

oh yeah one last thing: I'm from north america

p.s=I'm not using the x86 architecture so I don't have simplification of
their chipsets features choice hence the ide/floppy questions for one
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Jim Stewart
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 1:15 am    Post subject: Re: three 'where to find?' hardware questons.... Reply with quote

dr wrote:
Quote:
story is that I'm just more of sketching this mini-system idea into
notes and quick diagrams on paper but if it seem good enough and not
that expensive I might try get it onto a prototype board at some date.

where would one find a supplier of floppy controllers?
(I only could find old database pages underneath a lot of linux faq
sites so....I had to wonder)

if you had used any what was your choice of ide controller? (name too)

Winbond W83877F works good, cheap, ttl bus,
IDE, floppy and 2 serial ports. $4.16, no
stock, 5 weeks on Arrow website. Documentation
kinda sucks.

Be warned that you *will* pull your hair out
writing the floppy driver. The chip is based
on the old NEC upd765, perhaps one of the least
programmer-friendly chips I've ever seen. Can
you say "you have to check flags to see if it's
safe to check flags?" I knew you could (:

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is Texas Instruments the only supplier or someone else also makes
firewire PHY and host controller ics? (I'm looking for the 1349A
100/200/400mbps type)

well thats all I can think of right now, thanks very much for any help.

oh yeah one last thing: I'm from north america

p.s=I'm not using the x86 architecture so I don't have simplification of
their chipsets features choice hence the ide/floppy questions for one
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Didi
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 1:15 am    Post subject: Re: three 'where to find?' hardware questons.... Reply with quote

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... old NEC upd765, perhaps one of the least
programmer-friendly chips I've ever seen. Can
you say "you have to check flags to see if it's
safe to check flags?" I knew you could (:

You bring me 20 years back... On a 1 MHz 6809,
bringing the 765 (the original one... and I will not contradict
your description) to work at HD (1.2/1.44M) drives,
without using DMA, was pretty challenging, but
it did work...

Dimiter

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Dimiter Popoff Transgalactic Instruments

http://www.tgi-sci.com
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Jim Stewart
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 1:15 am    Post subject: Re: three 'where to find?' hardware questons.... Reply with quote

Didi wrote:

Quote:
... old NEC upd765, perhaps one of the least
programmer-friendly chips I've ever seen. Can
you say "you have to check flags to see if it's
safe to check flags?" I knew you could (:


You bring me 20 years back... On a 1 MHz 6809,
bringing the 765 (the original one... and I will not contradict
your description) to work at HD (1.2/1.44M) drives,
without using DMA, was pretty challenging, but
it did work...

Definitely makes you an "Old Geek" (:
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Andrew Jackson
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 1:15 am    Post subject: Re: three 'where to find?' hardware questons.... Reply with quote

Quote:
story is that I'm just more of sketching this mini-system idea into
notes and quick diagrams on paper but if it seem good enough and not
that expensive I might try get it onto a prototype board at some date.

where would one find a supplier of floppy controllers?
(I only could find old database pages underneath a lot of linux faq
sites so....I had to wonder)

if you had used any what was your choice of ide controller? (name too)

is Texas Instruments the only supplier or someone else also makes
firewire PHY and host controller ics? (I'm looking for the 1349A
100/200/400mbps type)

well thats all I can think of right now, thanks very much for any help.

oh yeah one last thing: I'm from north america

p.s=I'm not using the x86 architecture so I don't have simplification of
their chipsets features choice hence the ide/floppy questions for one


You might consider the "ALFAT" chip which you can get from Saelig. This
would let you store your data on a CF, MMC or SD card which is a lot more
convenient these days than floppy discs: it does all the FAT work for you. I
haven't used them but others here have recommended them.

Andrew
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Donald
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 1:15 am    Post subject: Re: three 'where to find?' hardware questons.... Reply with quote

dr wrote:

Quote:
story is that I'm just more of sketching this mini-system idea into
notes and quick diagrams on paper but if it seem good enough and not
that expensive I might try get it onto a prototype board at some date.

where would one find a supplier of floppy controllers?
(I only could find old database pages underneath a lot of linux faq
sites so....I had to wonder)


http://www.smsc.com/main/catalog/fdc37c78.html

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if you had used any what was your choice of ide controller? (name too)

A "controller" is kind of over kill. Its a simple parallel interface.

If you have a 8-bit parallel buss, there are lots of bit-banged interfaces.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&q=IDE+disk+controller+schematic

Quote:
is Texas Instruments the only supplier or someone else also makes
firewire PHY and host controller ics? (I'm looking for the 1349A
100/200/400mbps type)

well thats all I can think of right now, thanks very much for any help.

oh yeah one last thing: I'm from north america

p.s=I'm not using the x86 architecture so I don't have simplification of
their chipsets features choice hence the ide/floppy questions for one
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dr
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 1:15 am    Post subject: Re: three 'where to find?' hardware questons.... Reply with quote

hello there again

andrew: thanks for the suggestion but then again I'll like to get a disk
drive in as its the most conventional small file sharing way for me now
considering I own two pre-pci macintoshs' as well

donald & jim: thanks for the two links from both of you, I've looked at
the pdf files for both and decided to go after the smsc ones

didi: at least lets hope I don't even have to touch my hair hehe
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