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Antti Lukats
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 4:09 pm    Post subject: Spartan3e and ChipScope Reply with quote

Hi

I am having extreme trouble with ChipScope and Spartan3e (using the
Spartan3E Sample Pack PCB from digilent).

ISE 7.1 sample top, CS coregen, ICON+VIO wired up build, then:
1 First I tried CS 7.1SP2, no cores found...
2 tested with CS analyzer 7.1SP4, no cores found...
3 then regenerated the ICON+VIO with 7.1SP4, cores found, I am happy.
4 then ISE clean, rebuild, no cores found...
5 regenereting the ICON+VIO with CS 8.1 no cores found...
6 updating the project to ISE 8.1, cores found, I am happy
7 ISE clean, rebuild, no cores found..
8 what should I do next?

I am running my 3rd Day of struggle, and all I wanted todo was to programm
the Intel Flash on the board, the board can be seen there
http://www.nuhorizons.com/products/xilinx/spartan3e/samplepack.html

any ideas?

Antti
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Leon
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 4:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Spartan3e and ChipScope Reply with quote

How much was the S3E board?

Leon
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Antti Lukats
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 4:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Spartan3e and ChipScope Reply with quote

"Leon" <leon_heller@hotmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:1135334486.716451.7320@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
How much was the S3E board?

Leon

Hi Leon,


please contact your local Xilinx FAE ASAP, there might be a surprise for you
:)

Antti

PS I contacted nuhorizon regarding the S3e Sample Pack (as they are the only
entity who has published any info about the board at the moment) but they
did not even care to respond to the email at all, so I guess contacting nu
makes no sense, but maybe I am on their blacklist as I have never ever
purchased anything from them or even considered that. So others may be more
lucky with nu. Anyway I would suggest contacting the Xilinx FAE and not any
disti regarding the board.
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Alex Gibson
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 5:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Spartan3e and ChipScope Reply with quote

"Antti Lukats" <antti@openchip.org> wrote in message
news:dogklm$f2b$02$1@news.t-online.com...
Quote:
"Leon" <leon_heller@hotmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:1135334486.716451.7320@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
How much was the S3E board?

Leon

Hi Leon,

please contact your local Xilinx FAE ASAP, there might be a surprise for
you :)

Antti

PS I contacted nuhorizon regarding the S3e Sample Pack (as they are the
only entity who has published any info about the board at the moment) but
they did not even care to respond to the email at all, so I guess
contacting nu makes no sense, but maybe I am on their blacklist as I have
never ever purchased anything from them or even considered that. So others
may be more lucky with nu. Anyway I would suggest contacting the Xilinx
FAE and not any disti regarding the board.

Unlucky for those of us not in Europe , US or Japan then.
Same as with
<http://www.em.avnet.com/spc/home/0,1727,RID%253D0%2526CID%253D27914%2526CCD%253DUSA%2526SID%253D4745%2526DID%253DDF2%2526LID%253D0%2526BID%253DDF2%2526CTP%253DSPC,00.html>
See bottom of that page.

ADDS-BFFPGA-EZEXT is a nice addon to the Analog Blackfin Ezkits (S31000 not
S3e)
if you were lucky enough to pick up the Ezkit at US$99 when they first came
out a year or so back(now US$450)
<http://www.analog.com/en/epHSProd/0,,BF-EXTENDERFPG,00.html>
<http://www.analog.com/processors/epManualsDisplay/0,2795,,00.html?SectionWeblawId=207&ContentID=87691&Language=English>

Blackfin stamps are currently cheapest dsp boards around (digikey)
http://www.analog.com/en/epHSProd/0,,BF533-STAMP,00.html
http://www.analog.com/en/prod/0,2877,BF537%252DSTAMP,00.html
http://blackfin.uclinux.org/

Similar but lot priceier (for TI DM642 EVM dsp board) uses a SX4
<http://www.spectrumdigital.com/product_info.php?cPath=33&products_id=174&osCsid=7ebc2584cab24a47e0e2fac9f1c689a3>

Alex
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Antti Lukats
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 5:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Spartan3e and ChipScope Reply with quote

"Leon" <leon_heller@hotmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:1135334486.716451.7320@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
How much was the S3E board?

Leon

things are moving on, I wasnt sure if it was ok to say that the board is

FREE, but as Avnet has said that in public so its public info now. The
boards are ready for customers, just need to contact whoever is responsible
for you as FAE/Disti.

Antti
http://xilant.com/content/category/4/81/55/
reviews of 2 different Spartan3e based boards
(the sample pack review will be heavily updated over this weekend)
http://xilant.com/content/view/28/51/
standalone programming and test utility for the s3e sample pack
internal beta test at the moment, will be available shortly
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Andy Peters
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 11:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Spartan3e and ChipScope Reply with quote

Antti Lukats wrote:
Quote:
Hi

I am having extreme trouble with ChipScope and Spartan3e (using the
Spartan3E Sample Pack PCB from digilent).

ISE 7.1 sample top, CS coregen, ICON+VIO wired up build, then:
1 First I tried CS 7.1SP2, no cores found...
2 tested with CS analyzer 7.1SP4, no cores found...
3 then regenerated the ICON+VIO with 7.1SP4, cores found, I am happy.
4 then ISE clean, rebuild, no cores found...
5 regenereting the ICON+VIO with CS 8.1 no cores found...
6 updating the project to ISE 8.1, cores found, I am happy
7 ISE clean, rebuild, no cores found..
8 what should I do next?

I never instantiate ChipScope in the design. I always use the
ChipScope Core Inserter. Making changes to what you wish to probe is a
lot easier this way.

I've noticed that, at least with Spartan 2E, you can't configure the
chip from within ChipScope. It always fails. I use Impact to program
the configuration EEPROM, then power-cycle the board, then reconnect
ChipScope.

When ChipScope works, it's the shit. When it doesn't, lots of cursing
ensues ...

-a
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Antti Lukats
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 12:21 am    Post subject: Re: Spartan3e and ChipScope Reply with quote

"Andy Peters" <Bassman59a@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:1135359469.557185.162020@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
Antti Lukats wrote:
Hi

I am having extreme trouble with ChipScope and Spartan3e (using the
Spartan3E Sample Pack PCB from digilent).

ISE 7.1 sample top, CS coregen, ICON+VIO wired up build, then:
1 First I tried CS 7.1SP2, no cores found...
2 tested with CS analyzer 7.1SP4, no cores found...
3 then regenerated the ICON+VIO with 7.1SP4, cores found, I am happy.
4 then ISE clean, rebuild, no cores found...
5 regenereting the ICON+VIO with CS 8.1 no cores found...
6 updating the project to ISE 8.1, cores found, I am happy
7 ISE clean, rebuild, no cores found..
8 what should I do next?

I never instantiate ChipScope in the design. I always use the
ChipScope Core Inserter. Making changes to what you wish to probe is a
lot easier this way.

I've noticed that, at least with Spartan 2E, you can't configure the
chip from within ChipScope. It always fails. I use Impact to program
the configuration EEPROM, then power-cycle the board, then reconnect
ChipScope.

When ChipScope works, it's the shit. When it doesn't, lots of cursing
ensues ...

-a

shit when works and cursing when not? That was a typo I guess :)


well you can not use core inserter for the VIO, so thats no option.

I dont know why you can not configure with chipscope, the way
you do it is very troublesome. be aware that chipscope does
not auto fix the startup clock so if the clock wasnt set to JTAG
in the bitgen option then chipscope want of course configure.

Antti
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John McCaskill
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 9:15 am    Post subject: Re: Spartan3e and ChipScope Reply with quote

Antti Lukats wrote:
Quote:
"Andy Peters" <Bassman59a@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:1135359469.557185.162020@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Antti Lukats wrote:
Hi

I am having extreme trouble with ChipScope and Spartan3e (using the
Spartan3E Sample Pack PCB from digilent).

ISE 7.1 sample top, CS coregen, ICON+VIO wired up build, then:
1 First I tried CS 7.1SP2, no cores found...
2 tested with CS analyzer 7.1SP4, no cores found...
3 then regenerated the ICON+VIO with 7.1SP4, cores found, I am happy.
4 then ISE clean, rebuild, no cores found...
5 regenereting the ICON+VIO with CS 8.1 no cores found...
6 updating the project to ISE 8.1, cores found, I am happy
7 ISE clean, rebuild, no cores found..
8 what should I do next?

I never instantiate ChipScope in the design. I always use the
ChipScope Core Inserter. Making changes to what you wish to probe is a
lot easier this way.

I've noticed that, at least with Spartan 2E, you can't configure the
chip from within ChipScope. It always fails. I use Impact to program
the configuration EEPROM, then power-cycle the board, then reconnect
ChipScope.

When ChipScope works, it's the shit. When it doesn't, lots of cursing
ensues ...

^^^^^^^

Not a typo. That is slang for very good.




Quote:

-a

shit when works and cursing when not? That was a typo I guess :)

well you can not use core inserter for the VIO, so thats no option.

I dont know why you can not configure with chipscope, the way
you do it is very troublesome. be aware that chipscope does
not auto fix the startup clock so if the clock wasnt set to JTAG
in the bitgen option then chipscope want of course configure.

Antti
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Leon
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 5:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Spartan3e and ChipScope Reply with quote

I got one of the Blackfin EZ-kits when they were on special offer, and
one of the Stamp kits. Haven't used them much, though.

Leon
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Alex Gibson
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 5:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Spartan3e and ChipScope Reply with quote

"Leon" <leon_heller@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1135429069.663788.187480@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
I got one of the Blackfin EZ-kits when they were on special offer, and
one of the Stamp kits. Haven't used them much, though.

Leon

Have both boards myself.
Using them a bit lately.

Working on C6400/DM642 based video systems lately.
Find the blackfin boards easier and faster to get things up and running on.

The latest book
Embedded Media Processing from David Katz and Rick Gentile
is quite good but should have gone the next step
and given at least a few complete code examples
instead of a few snippets.

Leaves the book feeling incomplete - difference
between a good book and a great book.
Useful book with its practical tips.

Companian cd only has visualdsp++ and no code examples
neither does the books website http://www.theempbook.com/

Alex
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Peter Alfke
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 5:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Spartan3e and ChipScope Reply with quote

I suggest that we avoid ambiguous slang exressions in this
international newsgroup.
Too much danger of miscommunication.
Merry Christmas to all.
Peter Alfke
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Antti Lukats
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 11:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Spartan3e and ChipScope Reply with quote

"Peter Alfke" <alfke@sbcglobal.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:1135443988.491400.119620@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
I suggest that we avoid ambiguous slang exressions in this
international newsgroup.
Too much danger of miscommunication.
Merry Christmas to all.
Peter Alfke

Hi Peter,


right, using shit as s(uper)hit slang can confuse lots of non-english native
readers.

Merry Christmas !

Antti

[shit] I am afraid I have to stop playing with spartan3e for tonight!
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Antti Lukats
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 11:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Spartan3e and ChipScope Reply with quote

"Andy Peters" <Bassman59a@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:1135359469.557185.162020@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
Antti Lukats wrote:
Hi

I am having extreme trouble with ChipScope and Spartan3e (using the
Spartan3E Sample Pack PCB from digilent).

ISE 7.1 sample top, CS coregen, ICON+VIO wired up build, then:
1 First I tried CS 7.1SP2, no cores found...
2 tested with CS analyzer 7.1SP4, no cores found...
3 then regenerated the ICON+VIO with 7.1SP4, cores found, I am happy.
4 then ISE clean, rebuild, no cores found...
5 regenereting the ICON+VIO with CS 8.1 no cores found...
6 updating the project to ISE 8.1, cores found, I am happy
7 ISE clean, rebuild, no cores found..
8 what should I do next?

I never instantiate ChipScope in the design. I always use the
ChipScope Core Inserter. Making changes to what you wish to probe is a
lot easier this way.

I've noticed that, at least with Spartan 2E, you can't configure the
chip from within ChipScope. It always fails. I use Impact to program
the configuration EEPROM, then power-cycle the board, then reconnect
ChipScope.

When ChipScope works, it's the shit. When it doesn't, lots of cursing
ensues ...

-a


just to check if it the issue of coregenerator vs core inserter I tested the
core inserted flow too
same bad luck no cores found

Antti
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