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Xenon
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Fri Jan 21, 2005 3:52 am Post subject:
The 2005 ISSCC |
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ISSCC 2005, 6-10 Feb 2005
( http://ps2.unisord.com/ )
Presentations:
-A Streaming Processing Unit for a CELL Processor (STI)
-The Design and Implementation of a First-Generation CELL Processor (STI)
-A Double-Precision Multiplier with Fine-Grained Clock Gating Support for a
First-Generation CELL Processor (IBM)
-A 4.8GHz Fully Pipelined Embedded SRAM in the Streaming Processor of a CELL
Processor (STI)
-Clocking and Circuit Design for a Parallel I/O on a First-Generation CELL
Processor (Rambus)
There are some further details, I am not 100% sure if got them right, so
beware:
-Operation of the 16TFLOPS rack prototype will be demo'd
-The manufacturing process of announced CELL SOI technology will be 90nm,
not 65nm.
-Three of five announcements are done by STI.
-IBM starts CELL trial production for workstations in the first half of
2005.
-CELL powered home server (Sony) by the end of 2006.
-CELL powered HDTV display (Sony, Toshiba) by the end of 2006.
[some of the information on that site is bound to be incorrect but anyway,
the ISSCC is where Playstation3's CPU is bound to be revealed, much like
ISSCC 1999 where PS2 CPU was revealed. not the *entire* PS2/PS3 chipset as
that came/will come in MARCH, but the CPU.] |
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Andrew Ryan Chang
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Fri Jan 21, 2005 5:50 am Post subject:
Re: Cell Architecture Explained (MASSIVE AMOUNT OF INFO) |
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R Adsett <radsett@junk.aeolusdevelopment.cm> wrote:
| Quote: | *I* am not saying anything. If that's what the article says, then that's
what it says.
I will leave it for the tech-heads to figure this stuff out.
Umm, did you really just say that you don't understand an article you
wrote?
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Of course not! Cygnus/Radeon/Xenon/etc is mainly a bulk reposter
of other people's content. I would wager that if he was restricted to
only reproducing content he understood, he would not be nearly as
prolific.
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You are what you do. If you do boring, stupid, monotonous work, chances
are you'll end up boring, stupid, and monotonous.
-- "THE ABOLITION OF WORK" by Bob Black |
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Xenon
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Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:56 am Post subject:
Re: Cell Architecture Explained (MASSIVE AMOUNT OF INFO) |
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"R Adsett" <radsett@junk.aeolusdevelopment.cm> wrote in message
news:QsmdnbcqHvbAD23cRVn-gg@rogers.com...
| Quote: | In article <f4OdncWZFpIT423cRVn-rA@comcast.com>, xenonxbox2@xboxnext.com
says...
*I* am not saying anything. If that's what the article says, then
that's
what it says.
I will leave it for the tech-heads to figure this stuff out.
Umm, did you really just say that you don't understand an article you
wrote?
Robert
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Uhhhhhh are you trying to suggest that I wrote all of that? |
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R Adsett
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Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:56 am Post subject:
Re: Cell Architecture Explained (MASSIVE AMOUNT OF INFO) |
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In article <f4OdncWZFpIT423cRVn-rA@comcast.com>, xenonxbox2@xboxnext.com
says...
| Quote: | *I* am not saying anything. If that's what the article says, then that's
what it says.
I will leave it for the tech-heads to figure this stuff out.
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Umm, did you really just say that you don't understand an article you
wrote?
Robert |
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Guest
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Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:56 am Post subject:
Re: Cell Architecture Explained (MASSIVE AMOUNT OF INFO) |
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Unless I've overlooked something, there's nothing new here. This is a
summary of info that's been available in patents for quite some time
now.
Paul Zimmons put together some powerpoints that hit the highlights
quickly. His webpage is gone, but google should turn up a nice
selection of gaming websites that have proudly hosted the files locally
as if it was some sort of exclusive info. |
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CEO Gargantua
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Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:56 am Post subject:
Re: Cell Architecture Explained (MASSIVE AMOUNT OF INFO) |
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Xenon wrote:
| Quote: | "CEO Gargantua" <gamers@r.lamers> wrote in message
news:41F07E06.4040500@r.lamers...
Are you saying that the Cell processor has some type of IL (
intermediate language ) that is universal for all Operating systems?
*I* am not saying anything. If that's what the article says, then that's
what it says.
I will leave it for the tech-heads to figure this stuff out.
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Bullshit indicator going into red...
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Xenon
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Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:56 am Post subject:
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"CEO Gargantua" <gamers@r.lamers> wrote in message
news:41F07E06.4040500@r.lamers...
| Quote: | Xenon wrote:
Cell provides something similar to Java but in a completely different
way.
Java provides a software based "virtual machine" which is the same on
all
platforms, Cell provides a machine as well - but they do it in hardware,
the
equivalent of Java's virtual machine is the Cells physical hardware. If
I
was to write Cell code on OS X the exact same Cell code would run on
Windows, Linux or Zeta because in all cases it is the hardware Cells
which
execute it.
Are you saying that the Cell processor has some type of IL (
intermediate language ) that is universal for all Operating systems?
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*I* am not saying anything. If that's what the article says, then that's
what it says.
I will leave it for the tech-heads to figure this stuff out. |
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CEO Gargantua
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Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:57 am Post subject:
Re: Cell Architecture Explained (MASSIVE AMOUNT OF INFO) |
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Xenon wrote:
| Quote: | Cell provides something similar to Java but in a completely different way.
Java provides a software based "virtual machine" which is the same on all
platforms, Cell provides a machine as well - but they do it in hardware, the
equivalent of Java's virtual machine is the Cells physical hardware. If I
was to write Cell code on OS X the exact same Cell code would run on
Windows, Linux or Zeta because in all cases it is the hardware Cells which
execute it.
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Are you saying that the Cell processor has some type of IL (
intermediate language ) that is universal for all Operating systems?
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incognito...updated almost daily
http://kentpsychedelic.blogspot.com
Texeme Textcasting Technology
http://texeme.com |
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The Don
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Fri Jan 21, 2005 1:08 pm Post subject:
Re: Cell Architecture Explained (MASSIVE AMOUNT OF INFO) |
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"Xenon" <xenonxbox2@xboxnext.com> wrote in message
news:o7-dnYRebucXNG3cRVn-oA@comcast.com...
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"R Adsett" <radsett@junk.aeolusdevelopment.cm> wrote in message
news:QsmdnbcqHvbAD23cRVn-gg@rogers.com...
In article <f4OdncWZFpIT423cRVn-rA@comcast.com>, xenonxbox2@xboxnext.com
says...
*I* am not saying anything. If that's what the article says, then
that's
what it says.
I will leave it for the tech-heads to figure this stuff out.
Umm, did you really just say that you don't understand an article you
wrote?
Robert
Uhhhhhh are you trying to suggest that I wrote all of that?
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NO - you are suggesting that by not drawing any reference to the actual
creator or source of the article that YOU posted. |
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Paul Russell
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Fri Jan 21, 2005 3:23 pm Post subject:
Re: Cell Architecture Explained (MASSIVE AMOUNT OF INFO) |
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The Don wrote:
| Quote: | "Xenon" <xenonxbox2@xboxnext.com> wrote in message
Uhhhhhh are you trying to suggest that I wrote all of that?
NO - you are suggesting that by not drawing any reference to the actual
creator or source of the article that YOU posted.
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xenon apparently plagiarised the article from Mr Nicholas Blachford:
<http://www.blachford.info/computer/Cells/Cell1.html>.
Paul |
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R Adsett
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Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:53 pm Post subject:
Re: Cell Architecture Explained (MASSIVE AMOUNT OF INFO) |
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In article <o7-dnYRebucXNG3cRVn-oA@comcast.com>, xenonxbox2@xboxnext.com
says...
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"R Adsett" <radsett@junk.aeolusdevelopment.cm> wrote in message
news:QsmdnbcqHvbAD23cRVn-gg@rogers.com...
In article <f4OdncWZFpIT423cRVn-rA@comcast.com>, xenonxbox2@xboxnext.com
says...
*I* am not saying anything. If that's what the article says, then
that's
what it says.
I will leave it for the tech-heads to figure this stuff out.
Umm, did you really just say that you don't understand an article you
wrote?
Robert
Uhhhhhh are you trying to suggest that I wrote all of that?
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Since you didn't credit anyone else (or post it as a link), it's either
that or plagiarism. I took the approach of assuming the lesser evil.
Robert |
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Zackman
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Fri Jan 21, 2005 9:08 pm Post subject:
Re: Cell Architecture Explained (MASSIVE AMOUNT OF INFO) |
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Xenon wrote:
| Quote: | *I* am not saying anything. If that's what the article says, then
that's what it says.
I will leave it for the tech-heads to figure this stuff out.
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You'll have to forgive Xenon. Aside from cutting and pasting about a
terabyte's worth of crap per day, he often doesn't even bother providing the
source. He's like the Bizarro World version of a regular poster, who simply
pastes a link and lets you decide for yourself if you want to read it. Xenon
wants you to read it, but often doesn't bother telling you where it came
from.
-Z- |
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chrisv
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Fri Jan 21, 2005 11:56 pm Post subject:
Re: Cell Architecture Explained (MASSIVE AMOUNT OF INFO) |
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Xenon wrote:
| Quote: | Cell Architecture Explained: Introduction
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Next time, just post the link, idiot.
*plonk* |
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Ronald H. Nicholson Jr.
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Sat Jan 22, 2005 2:56 am Post subject:
Re: Cell Architecture Explained (MASSIVE AMOUNT OF INFO) |
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In article <name99-42B264.17530821012005@localhost>,
Maynard Handley <name99@name99.org> wrote:
| Quote: | Bottom line is that this thing doesn't resemble any traditional CPU and
is therefore a godawful match to existing languages, compilers and
algorithms.
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GPU shader algorithms and languages? Common DSP library/toolbox calls?
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Ron Nicholson rhn AT nicholson DOT com http://www.nicholson.com/rhn/
#include <canonical.disclaimer> // only my own opinions, etc. |
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Doug Jacobs
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Sat Jan 22, 2005 5:08 am Post subject:
Re: Cell Architecture Explained (MASSIVE AMOUNT OF INFO) |
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In alt.games.video.sony-playstation2 Zackman <zackman@spamisevilearthling.net> wrote:
| Quote: | You'll have to forgive Xenon. Aside from cutting and pasting about a
terabyte's worth of crap per day, he often doesn't even bother providing the
source. He's like the Bizarro World version of a regular poster, who simply
pastes a link and lets you decide for yourself if you want to read it. Xenon
wants you to read it, but often doesn't bother telling you where it came
from.
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Or even what he thinks about it. In this case, it seems that he doesn't
even understand what he posted. |
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