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NEXT BOX
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Tue Feb 15, 2005 8:45 pm Post subject:
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http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?NewsID=10856&Page=1&pagePos=2
Apple and Sony Cell chip alliance predicted
By Jonny Evans
Apple may use the new Cell processor, according to Merrill Lynch.
Analysts from the firm this morning raised their 12-month estimates on
Apple to $102 per share (from $85). They did so because the analysts think
Apple may announce a partnership with Sony, and may begin shipping products
based on the Sony, IBM, Toshiba-developed Cell processor.
CBS MarketWatch reports Merrill's prediction that such a partnership
could be an iTunes-type movie store, a high-performance Apple/Sony video
editing workstation or even a network ready TV.
If it happened, such a move would "put Apple at the heart of the HD
and digital consumer revolution", the analysts said.
Rumours of a strengthened relationship with Sony have been rife since
the surprise appearance of that company's president Kunitake Ando with Apple
CEO Steve Jobs during the latter's Macworld San Francisco keynote speech.
Ostensibly there to help stress Jobs' keynote focus on High Definition
video, Ando raised laughter when he noted that Jobs likes Sony products, but
not all Sony products in a reference to iTunes and Sony Connect.
Apple CEO Steve Jobs is understood to have proposed an alliance with
Sony regarding iTunes - an alliance Sony then spurned.
Apple's Jobs has always expressed respect for Sony as a company.
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/newsfinder/pulseone.asp?siteid=mktw&dateid=38398.2164667593-832262873& |
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keith
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Wed Feb 16, 2005 6:34 am Post subject:
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 09:45:00 -0600, NEXT BOX wrote:
| Quote: | Apple and Sony Cell chip alliance predicted
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What a maroon! ...well two maroons.
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Humiliating Defeat (!)
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Wed Feb 16, 2005 7:05 am Post subject:
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NEXT BOX wrote:
| Quote: | http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?NewsID=10856&Page=1&pagePos=2
Apple and Sony Cell chip alliance predicted
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Ok.
So that explains the price rise in AAPL.
Sony is planning to buy them.
| Quote: | By Jonny Evans
Apple may use the new Cell processor, according to Merrill Lynch.
Analysts from the firm this morning raised their 12-month estimates
on
Apple to $102 per share (from $85). They did so because the analysts think
Apple may announce a partnership with Sony, and may begin shipping
products based on the Sony, IBM, Toshiba-developed Cell processor.
CBS MarketWatch reports Merrill's prediction that such a partnership
could be an iTunes-type movie store, a high-performance Apple/Sony video
editing workstation or even a network ready TV.
If it happened, such a move would "put Apple at the heart of the HD
and digital consumer revolution", the analysts said.
Rumours of a strengthened relationship with Sony have been rife
since
the surprise appearance of that company's president Kunitake Ando with
Apple CEO Steve Jobs during the latter's Macworld San Francisco keynote
speech.
Ostensibly there to help stress Jobs' keynote focus on High
Definition
video, Ando raised laughter when he noted that Jobs likes Sony products,
but not all Sony products in a reference to iTunes and Sony Connect.
Apple CEO Steve Jobs is understood to have proposed an alliance with
Sony regarding iTunes - an alliance Sony then spurned.
Apple's Jobs has always expressed respect for Sony as a company.
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/newsfinder/pulseone.asp?siteid=mktw&dateid=38398.2164667593-832262873& |
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Texeme
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Yousuf Khan
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Wed Feb 16, 2005 7:55 am Post subject:
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NEXT BOX wrote:
| Quote: | http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?NewsID=10856&Page=1&pagePos=2
Apple and Sony Cell chip alliance predicted
By Jonny Evans
Apple may use the new Cell processor, according to Merrill Lynch.
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Pretty much the only place where this processor is going to get the time
of day in a PC world.
Yousuf Khan |
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Jeremy Williamson
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Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:28 am Post subject:
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SELL!!!!
:)
J
"NEXT BOX" <nextbox@xbox2.net> wrote in message
news:ou6dnWq_B_hlhY_fRVn-pg@comcast.com...
| Quote: | http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?NewsID=10856&Page=1&pagePos=2
Apple and Sony Cell chip alliance predicted
By Jonny Evans
Apple may use the new Cell processor, according to Merrill Lynch.
Analysts from the firm this morning raised their 12-month estimates
on
Apple to $102 per share (from $85). They did so because the analysts think
Apple may announce a partnership with Sony, and may begin shipping
products
based on the Sony, IBM, Toshiba-developed Cell processor.
CBS MarketWatch reports Merrill's prediction that such a partnership
could be an iTunes-type movie store, a high-performance Apple/Sony video
editing workstation or even a network ready TV.
If it happened, such a move would "put Apple at the heart of the HD
and digital consumer revolution", the analysts said.
Rumours of a strengthened relationship with Sony have been rife
since
the surprise appearance of that company's president Kunitake Ando with
Apple
CEO Steve Jobs during the latter's Macworld San Francisco keynote speech.
Ostensibly there to help stress Jobs' keynote focus on High
Definition
video, Ando raised laughter when he noted that Jobs likes Sony products,
but
not all Sony products in a reference to iTunes and Sony Connect.
Apple CEO Steve Jobs is understood to have proposed an alliance with
Sony regarding iTunes - an alliance Sony then spurned.
Apple's Jobs has always expressed respect for Sony as a company.
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/newsfinder/pulseone.asp?siteid=mktw&dateid=38398.2164667593-832262873&
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Robert Myers
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Fri Feb 18, 2005 5:13 am Post subject:
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:13:32 -0500, Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@ezrs.com>
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Why are you and Keith so sure of yourselves?
If you're saying that Cell isn't going to make a mark in x86 boxes,
that's a tautology...
The fact that Apple already uses Power and Cell is genetically related
to Power? Not particularly important, I think...
The fact that Apple has been making a money in consumer electronics
when everybody else has been treading water and that Cell could
revolutionize consumer electronics... That's what counts.
Time to dredge up the early dismissive comments on PC's. Nothing is
forever.
RM |
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Bagger Vance
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Fri Feb 18, 2005 5:26 am Post subject:
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Robert Myers wrote:
| Quote: | The fact that Apple has been making a money in consumer electronics
when everybody else has been treading water and that Cell could
revolutionize consumer electronics... That's what counts.
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Making money, but not at the scale of a real consumer electronics
company....$250million a quarter? c'mon...
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Time to dredge up the early dismissive comments on PC's. Nothing is
forever.
RM |
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Doug Jacobs
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Fri Feb 18, 2005 7:11 am Post subject:
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In alt.games.video.sony-playstation2 Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@ezrs.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Pretty much the only place where this processor is going to get the time
of day in a PC world.
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What, even the PC has Intel, AMD, VIA, and Transmeta. Yes, Intel is the
lion's share of the market...for now. |
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Yousuf Khan
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Fri Feb 18, 2005 5:56 pm Post subject:
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Doug Jacobs wrote:
| Quote: | In alt.games.video.sony-playstation2 Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@ezrs.com> wrote:
Pretty much the only place where this processor is going to get the time
of day in a PC world.
What, even the PC has Intel, AMD, VIA, and Transmeta. Yes, Intel is the
lion's share of the market...for now.
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All of those processors are x86-compatible, something that the Cell most
definite is not.
Yousuf Khan |
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Del Cecchi
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Fri Feb 18, 2005 8:02 pm Post subject:
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Robert Myers wrote:
| Quote: | On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:13:32 -0500, Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@ezrs.com
wrote:
NEXT BOX wrote:
http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?NewsID=10856&Page=1&pagePos=2
Apple and Sony Cell chip alliance predicted
By Jonny Evans
Apple may use the new Cell processor, according to Merrill Lynch.
Pretty much the only place where this processor is going to get the time
of day in a PC world.
Why are you and Keith so sure of yourselves?
If you're saying that Cell isn't going to make a mark in x86 boxes,
that's a tautology...
The fact that Apple already uses Power and Cell is genetically related
to Power? Not particularly important, I think...
The fact that Apple has been making a money in consumer electronics
when everybody else has been treading water and that Cell could
revolutionize consumer electronics... That's what counts.
Time to dredge up the early dismissive comments on PC's. Nothing is
forever.
RM
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I am not sure what this means. Apple would use the Cell Chip presented
at ISSCC? What for? It doesn't have some of the stuff needed to make a
Mac. Apple doesn't have a product line that would be appropriate. Way
too much power for an Ipod.
Is someone hypothesizing that Apple would make some sort of spiffy new
home entertainment and game and tv system? What's in that for Sony?
I think some doof at merrill lynch saw PowerPC and thought Apple.
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Ted Kranz, Baker
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Fri Feb 18, 2005 8:11 pm Post subject:
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Yousuf Khan wrote:
| Quote: | Doug Jacobs wrote:
In alt.games.video.sony-playstation2 Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@ezrs.com> wrote:
Pretty much the only place where this processor is going to get the time
of day in a PC world.
What, even the PC has Intel, AMD, VIA, and Transmeta. Yes, Intel is the
lion's share of the market...for now.
All of those processors are x86-compatible, something that the Cell most
definite is not.
Yousuf Khan
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The cell will be as popular as Crusoe...not at all.
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keith
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Sat Feb 19, 2005 9:11 pm Post subject:
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 19:13:07 -0500, Robert Myers wrote:
| Quote: | On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:13:32 -0500, Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@ezrs.com
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NEXT BOX wrote:
http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?NewsID=10856&Page=1&pagePos=2
Apple and Sony Cell chip alliance predicted
By Jonny Evans
Apple may use the new Cell processor, according to Merrill Lynch.
Pretty much the only place where this processor is going to get the time
of day in a PC world.
Why are you and Keith so sure of yourselves?
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I am not sure what you're accusing me of here. I don't agree with
much of what Yousuf has written here.
| Quote: | If you're saying that Cell isn't going to make a mark in x86 boxes,
that's a tautology...
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Sure.
| Quote: | The fact that Apple already uses Power and Cell is genetically related
to Power? Not particularly important, I think...
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s/Power/PowerPC/ and I agree somewhat.
| Quote: | The fact that Apple has been making a money in consumer electronics
when everybody else has been treading water and that Cell could
revolutionize consumer electronics... That's what counts.
Time to dredge up the early dismissive comments on PC's. Nothing is
forever.
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Exactly.
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keith
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Sat Feb 19, 2005 9:41 pm Post subject:
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 16:26:23 -0800, Bagger Vance wrote:
| Quote: | Robert Myers wrote:
The fact that Apple has been making a money in consumer electronics
when everybody else has been treading water and that Cell could
revolutionize consumer electronics... That's what counts.
Making money, but not at the scale of a real consumer electronics
company....$250million a quarter? c'mon...
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I'm not sure where you get your information ($250M/qtr doesn't compute).
Apple (2004) made $276M in income (on $8.28B in revenue), up from $69M
income in 2003 (on $6.2B revenue), a 4x improvement. That's certainly not
back to where they were in '00 ($768M on $7.98B), but not too shabby for
an "unreal" company and certainly moving in the right direction. As
ooposed to, say, HP with a whopping $19M income (on $21.2B revenue) from
its Personal Systems Group (2003). Add in HP's "Enterprise Systems" ($54M
loss on $15.4B) and AAPL isn't looking so bad for an "unreal" company. Of
course, Carly no longer has a job, and Steve does.
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TOUATI Sid
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Mon Feb 21, 2005 5:27 pm Post subject:
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Isn't it the well studied massive parallel machine paradigm (repainted
with the concept of cellular programming) ? I mean isn't it a massively
parallel architecture scaled to smaller sizes ?
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Nick Maclaren
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Mon Feb 21, 2005 5:48 pm Post subject:
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In article <cvck7d$897$1@io.uvsq.fr>,
TOUATI Sid <touati-nospamplease@nospam-prism.uvsq.fr> writes:
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|> Isn't it the well studied massive parallel machine paradigm (repainted
|> with the concept of cellular programming) ? I mean isn't it a massively
|> parallel architecture scaled to smaller sizes ?
Yes.
But (a) don't assume that well-studied means well-understood, and
(b) don't assume that all designs are similar. The devil is in
the detail.
Regards,
Nick Maclaren. |
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