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Shreyas Kulkarni
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Fri Dec 17, 2004 4:43 am Post subject:
PCI doubt |
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hi there,
i have a (probably very fundamental) doubt regarding PCI -
what is the difference between a PCI master, arbiter and initiator?
they all look same to me.
TIA,
Shreyas |
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Kolja Sulimma
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Fri Dec 17, 2004 7:00 pm Post subject:
Re: PCI doubt |
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That is a very good question, because at least my PCI standard Rev 2.1
has none of these in the index, and only lists master in the Glossary.
master = an agent that initiates a bus transaction
agent = an entity that operates on a computer bus
Entity and bus are not defined, but an entity is apparently a bus device
bus device = A bus device can be either a master or a target
I love standards ;-)
Seriously,
Master and Initiator are the same.
An arbiter is something completely different. It exists once per bus and
resolves confliicts if multiple masters request acces to the bus.
See the REQ# and GNT# signals of each master are connected to the arbiter.
Kolja Sulimma
Shreyas Kulkarni wrote:
| Quote: | hi there,
i have a (probably very fundamental) doubt regarding PCI -
what is the difference between a PCI master, arbiter and initiator?
they all look same to me.
TIA,
Shreyas
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Shreyas Kulkarni
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Sat Dec 18, 2004 7:44 am Post subject:
Re: PCI doubt |
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does it mean that a target only PCI device can be master as well as
slave? master when initiating data trasnfer and slave when on the
receiving end? |
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Hal Murray
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Sat Dec 18, 2004 7:56 am Post subject:
Re: PCI doubt |
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| Quote: | does it mean that a target only PCI device can be master as well as
slave? master when initiating data trasnfer and slave when on the
receiving end?
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target == slave
the end that responds to a read/write from someplace else
initiator == master
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Sun Dec 19, 2004 1:20 pm Post subject:
Re: PCI doubt |
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In PCI, masters are called initiators and slaves are called targets. A
target only device can never initiate a transfer on the bus. It may be
read or written by other initiators.
A PCI device can be both a master and a slave but it wouldn't be called
'target only'. |
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Shreyas Kulkarni
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Mon Dec 20, 2004 7:39 am Post subject:
Re: PCI doubt |
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| tnx for that. |
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RobJ
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Mon Dec 20, 2004 6:52 pm Post subject:
Re: PCI doubt |
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Shreyas Kulkarni wrote:
| Quote: | hi there,
i have a (probably very fundamental) doubt regarding PCI -
what is the difference between a PCI master, arbiter and initiator?
they all look same to me.
TIA,
Shreyas
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The arbiter is a seprate function that decides which initiator gets the bus.
Initiators request the bus and the arbiter grants the bus to one initiator
at a time. Every PCI bus must have one and only one arbiter. |
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