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John Woodgate
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Sun Dec 19, 2004 2:57 am Post subject:
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I read in sci.electronics.design that Mike Harding <mike_harding@nixspam
..fastmail.fm> wrote (in <bfbbs0heplmst75ijtvcde2a2vdmrpsbqo@4ax.com>)
about 'Circuit that produces a tingling sensation in the fingers.', on
Sun, 19 Dec 2004:
| Quote: | At junior school 12 pennies to a shilling was always useful when we had
to calculate the price of one egg if a dozen eggs cost 3 shillings and
sixpence - bloody useless at all other times though :)
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How much is 12 feet of half-inch dowel if it's 2d an inch?
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Jonathan Kirwan
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Sun Dec 19, 2004 3:19 am Post subject:
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On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:42:45 -0800, Mike Harding
<mike_harding@nixspam.fastmail.fm> wrote:
| Quote: | I grew up in the UK with (most) of the above currency
but have lived in Australia (and a few other places)
for many years now. As complex and heavy as that
old coinage was it had a character I have never
come across with any other coinage. Occasionally
I open my old tin with pennies, thruppenny bits et al
and see an individuality with which a 20c piece can
never compare :)
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Well, I suppose this system would make money interesting to heft in one's mind.
Maybe that kept a kind of background semi-unconscious focus on money in the
Brit's mind that allowed them to "take over the known world" at some point. ;)
Now that I think on it, having a pound divided into 240 equal parts does mean
that the pound can be exactly divided into: halves, thirds, quarters, fifths,
sixths, eighths, tenths, twelfths, fifteenths, sixteenths, twentieths,
twenty-fourths, thirtieths, fortieths, forty-eightieths, sixtieths, eightieths,
and one-hundred-and-twentieths. By comparison, a prime-divisor-poor decimal
system allows only halves, quarters, fifths, tenths, twentieths, twenty-fifths,
and fiftieths.
Also, I'm gathering that a farthing was defunct since 1950. So usually there
was a halfpenny, one penny, threepence, sixpence, one shilling, two shillings.
two shillings and sixpence ('two and six' and sometimes called a half crown), 5
shillings (called a crown, but defunct since WW1?) ten shillings, and one pound.
And in the US, we don't even have Canada's pretty and different colored bills.
Although we did have the "bit" which was 12.5 cents (a quarter is called "two
bits') and the half-penny, and there was the eagle (I've got a double-eagle
"$20" gold coin, for example, from the latter half of the 1800's.)
Hmm. Maybe a system with pairs of all these primes, 2, 3, 5, and just one 7.
Base 6300 with 50 British pounds Sterling as equal to 6300 of these units. We
could have lots of fun with coins!
Jon |
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Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su
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Sun Dec 19, 2004 6:43 am Post subject:
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"John Woodgate" <jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote in message
news:J7unYcGqoIxBFw12@jmwa.demon.co.uk...
| Quote: | I read in sci.electronics.design that Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the
Dark Remover" <NOSPAM@dslextreme.com> wrote (in
10s90ldp1fr3k88@corp.su
pernews.com>) about 'Circuit that produces a tingling sensation in the
fingers.', on Sat, 18 Dec 2004:
At work, I often go to lunch at this British pub down the street, and
they have a bunch of stuff such as British coins in collages on the
walls. Messes with my head when I try to make sense (or cents) of
their
old coin system. ;-)
4 farthings = 2 halfpennies = 1 penny
4 pence = 1 groat
6 pence = 1 sixpence
2 sixpences = 1 shilling
2 shillings = 1 florin
2.5 shillings = 1 half-crown
2 half-crowns = 1 crown
2 crowns = 1 half-sovereign
2 half-sovereigns = 1 sovereign
21 shillings = 1 guinea
50 sovereigns = 1 pony
500 sovereigns = 1 monkey
I don't see the problem.
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Whew! And people have the nerve to gripe about 12 inches to a foot, 3
feet to a yard, 5280 feet to a mile... Well, apparently someone had a
problem, because they changed it all in 1971. :-P (I never heard of a
monkey - or a groat for that matter.)
Back on topic, ever use a coin for an electrode on the skin? Tingling
sensation..
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Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su
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Sun Dec 19, 2004 7:20 am Post subject:
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"Jonathan Kirwan" <jkirwan@easystreet.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | And in the US, we don't even have Canada's pretty and different
colored bills. |
The new 20 and 50 dollar bills are a lot more colorful than tne 'old'
ones that came out just a few years earlier. The peach colored paper
looks more colorful than the old bleah paper. The 'holographic' 20 and
50 insignias look cool, too.
[snip]
> Jon |
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Richard Henry
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Sun Dec 19, 2004 7:33 am Post subject:
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"Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover"" <NOSPAM@dslextreme.com> wrote
in message news:10s9p825uqvg693@corp.supernews.com...
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"Jonathan Kirwan" <jkirwan@easystreet.com> wrote in message
news:75a9s09qer95gh7dnr1rjm5s0p0aitgtrp@4ax.com...
On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:42:45 -0800, Mike Harding
mike_harding@nixspam.fastmail.fm> wrote:
[snip]
And in the US, we don't even have Canada's pretty and different
colored bills.
The new 20 and 50 dollar bills are a lot more colorful than tne 'old'
ones that came out just a few years earlier. The peach colored paper
looks more colorful than the old bleah paper. The 'holographic' 20 and
50 insignias look cool, too.
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Since the $100 bills came out first, there was some confusion when the $20s
came out. I recall paying for a $15 purchase with a new $20 and getting $85
in change. I didn't keep it, nor the $40 change for a $10 purchase later,
but when I got change of $16 for a $14 dollar purchase, I kept it.
Stupidity tax. |
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Mike Harding
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Sun Dec 19, 2004 7:56 am Post subject:
Re: Circuit that produces a tingling sensation in the finger |
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On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 21:22:28 GMT, Jonathan Kirwan
<jkirwan@easystreet.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 19:51:06 +0000, John Woodgate
jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote:
4 farthings = 2 halfpennies = 1 penny
4 pence = 1 groat
6 pence = 1 sixpence
2 sixpences = 1 shilling
2 shillings = 1 florin
2.5 shillings = 1 half-crown
2 half-crowns = 1 crown
2 crowns = 1 half-sovereign
2 half-sovereigns = 1 sovereign
21 shillings = 1 guinea
50 sovereigns = 1 pony
500 sovereigns = 1 monkey
Where's the thruppeny bit? And, I gather, shilling=bob and sixpence=tanner.
Also, a 2 bob bit was called never really called a florin, despite the word
being on the 2 bob bit, right?
Now, was this the Brit system for money just on Tuesdays? ;)
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Very good Jon.
I grew up in the UK with (most) of the above currency
but have lived in Australia (and a few other places)
for many years now. As complex and heavy as that
old coinage was it had a character I have never
come across with any other coinage. Occasionally
I open my old tin with pennies, thruppenny bits et al
and see an individuality with which a 20c piece can
never compare :)
At junior school 12 pennies to a shilling was always
useful when we had to calculate the price of one egg
if a dozen eggs cost 3 shillings and sixpence - bloody
useless at all other times though :)
Mike Harding |
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Mike Harding
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Sun Dec 19, 2004 7:56 am Post subject:
Re: Circuit that produces a tingling sensation in the finger |
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On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 21:57:45 +0000, John Woodgate
<jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote:
| Quote: | I read in sci.electronics.design that Mike Harding <mike_harding@nixspam
.fastmail.fm> wrote (in <bfbbs0heplmst75ijtvcde2a2vdmrpsbqo@4ax.com>)
about 'Circuit that produces a tingling sensation in the fingers.', on
Sun, 19 Dec 2004:
At junior school 12 pennies to a shilling was always useful when we had
to calculate the price of one egg if a dozen eggs cost 3 shillings and
sixpence - bloody useless at all other times though :)
How much is 12 feet of half-inch dowel if it's 2d an inch?
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Two shillings Mr Woodgate.
DON'T! Brings back bad memories! :)
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John Woodgate
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Sun Dec 19, 2004 7:56 am Post subject:
Re: Circuit that produces a tingling sensation in the finger |
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I read in sci.electronics.design that Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the
Dark Remover" <NOSPAM@dslextreme.com> wrote (in <10s9n2o6088ef88@corp.su
pernews.com>) about 'Circuit that produces a tingling sensation in the
fingers.', on Sat, 18 Dec 2004:
| Quote: | Whew! And people have the nerve to gripe about 12 inches to a foot, 3
feet to a yard, 5280 feet to a mile...
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Oh, there's list of linear measures quite as long as that one for money.
Rods, chains, furlongs...
| Quote: | Well, apparently someone had a
problem, because they changed it all in 1971. :-P
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Politicians changed it, so presumably they were the people who couldn't
understand.
| Quote: | (I never heard of a
monkey - or a groat for that matter.)
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Pony and monkey are nicknames, but groat is genuine.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk |
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Rich Grise
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Sun Dec 19, 2004 1:09 pm Post subject:
Re: Circuit that produces a tingling sensation in the finger |
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On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 21:55:18 +0000, John Woodgate wrote:
| Quote: | I read in sci.electronics.design that Grant Edwards <grante@visi.com
wrote (in <41c495c4$0$86400$a1866201@visi.com>) about 'Circuit that
produces a tingling sensation in the fingers.', on Sat, 18 Dec 2004:
Why? It wasn't any more complicated than US coinage. We've got pennies,
nickels, dimes, quarters, half-dollars, dollars (1,5,10,25,50,100). It
was just a different series of numbers: (1/2,1,2,6,12,120,240). I left
out a few, I guess there was a 3 and 24.
A long time ago, there was a 'mark', whose value varied from time to
time but was once 6s 8d, a third of a pound. Queen Victoria minted
double-florins (4 shillings), quarter, half and one-third farthings.
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I thought Florin was where Princess Buttercup met The Dread Pirate Westley.
;-)
Cheers!
Rich |
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Rich Grise
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Sun Dec 19, 2004 1:17 pm Post subject:
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On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 19:51:06 +0000, John Woodgate wrote:
| Quote: | I read in sci.electronics.design that Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the
Dark Remover" <NOSPAM@dslextreme.com> wrote (in <10s90ldp1fr3k88@corp.su
pernews.com>) about 'Circuit that produces a tingling sensation in the
fingers.', on Sat, 18 Dec 2004:
At work, I often go to lunch at this British pub down the street, and
they have a bunch of stuff such as British coins in collages on the
walls. Messes with my head when I try to make sense (or cents) of their
old coin system. ;-)
4 farthings = 2 halfpennies = 1 penny
4 pence = 1 groat
6 pence = 1 sixpence
2 sixpences = 1 shilling
2 shillings = 1 florin
2.5 shillings = 1 half-crown
2 half-crowns = 1 crown
2 crowns = 1 half-sovereign
2 half-sovereigns = 1 sovereign
21 shillings = 1 guinea
50 sovereigns = 1 pony
500 sovereigns = 1 monkey
I don't see the problem.
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ROFLMAOPIMP!
Is it the stems I've been smoking, or is this really this funny?
Dear ol' Dad (rest his soul) always used to tell me, consider the source.
;-)
Cheers!
Rich
<overshare>
[0] The fact that it's coming from Mr. Woodgate introduces a RHP Zero or
something, i.e. humour +10 db, D => 0 in case I have to 'splain. These old
stems are working surprisingly well! Of course, the alcohol probably is
participating synergistically.
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Rich Grise
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Sun Dec 19, 2004 1:25 pm Post subject:
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On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 17:43:23 -0800, Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark
Remover" wrote:
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"John Woodgate" <jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote in message
news:J7unYcGqoIxBFw12@jmwa.demon.co.uk...
I read in sci.electronics.design that Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the
Dark Remover" <NOSPAM@dslextreme.com> wrote (in
10s90ldp1fr3k88@corp.su
pernews.com>) about 'Circuit that produces a tingling sensation in the
fingers.', on Sat, 18 Dec 2004:
At work, I often go to lunch at this British pub down the street, and
they have a bunch of stuff such as British coins in collages on the
walls. Messes with my head when I try to make sense (or cents) of
their
old coin system. ;-)
4 farthings = 2 halfpennies = 1 penny
4 pence = 1 groat
6 pence = 1 sixpence
2 sixpences = 1 shilling
2 shillings = 1 florin
2.5 shillings = 1 half-crown
2 half-crowns = 1 crown
2 crowns = 1 half-sovereign
2 half-sovereigns = 1 sovereign
21 shillings = 1 guinea
50 sovereigns = 1 pony
500 sovereigns = 1 monkey
I don't see the problem.
Whew! And people have the nerve to gripe about 12 inches to a foot, 3
feet to a yard, 5280 feet to a mile... Well, apparently someone had a
problem, because they changed it all in 1971. :-P (I never heard of a
monkey - or a groat for that matter.)
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I've heard of monkeys - they're little primate mammals, similar to the
apes, but with tails. A groat is something you feed to a budgie. And just
for the sake of pedantry, a pony is a small horse. ;-p
| Quote: | Back on topic, ever use a coin for an electrode on the skin? Tingling
sensation..
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Well, I wouldn't use a bronze one or silver one, because the chemical
reactions could be kind of unpredictable, but I'd tend to think that
nickel has a certain amount of corrosion-resistance - it's a major
constituent of most high-tech stainless steels. Well, stuff that they
don't even _call_ "steel", like inconel and hastelloy. But highly
corrosion-resistant! Then again, I haven't tried to solder to one.
Cheers!
Rich |
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Richard The Troll
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Sun Dec 19, 2004 1:30 pm Post subject:
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On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 18:33:47 -0800, Richard Henry wrote:
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"Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover"" <NOSPAM@dslextreme.com> wrote
in message news:10s9p825uqvg693@corp.supernews.com...
"Jonathan Kirwan" <jkirwan@easystreet.com> wrote in message
news:75a9s09qer95gh7dnr1rjm5s0p0aitgtrp@4ax.com...
On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:42:45 -0800, Mike Harding
mike_harding@nixspam.fastmail.fm> wrote:
[snip]
And in the US, we don't even have Canada's pretty and different
colored bills.
The new 20 and 50 dollar bills are a lot more colorful than tne 'old'
ones that came out just a few years earlier. The peach colored paper
looks more colorful than the old bleah paper. The 'holographic' 20 and
50 insignias look cool, too.
Since the $100 bills came out first, there was some confusion when the $20s
came out. I recall paying for a $15 purchase with a new $20 and getting $85
in change. I didn't keep it, nor the $40 change for a $10 purchase later,
but when I got change of $16 for a $14 dollar purchase, I kept it.
Stupidity tax.
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Well, yeah, that is pretty stupid, if you paid with a $100.
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Rich Grise
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Sun Dec 19, 2004 1:45 pm Post subject:
Re: Circuit that produces a tingling sensation in the finger |
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On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 09:32:42 -0800, Mike Harding wrote:
| Quote: | On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 21:57:45 +0000, John Woodgate
jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote:
I read in sci.electronics.design that Mike Harding <mike_harding@nixspam
.fastmail.fm> wrote (in <bfbbs0heplmst75ijtvcde2a2vdmrpsbqo@4ax.com>)
about 'Circuit that produces a tingling sensation in the fingers.', on
Sun, 19 Dec 2004:
At junior school 12 pennies to a shilling was always useful when we had
to calculate the price of one egg if a dozen eggs cost 3 shillings and
sixpence - bloody useless at all other times though :)
How much is 12 feet of half-inch dowel if it's 2d an inch?
Two shillings Mr Woodgate.
DON'T! Brings back bad memories! :)
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That can't be right.
Two pence an inch means 24 pence for 12 inches, right?
And if there's 12 pence per shilling, that's two shillings per foot.
So whatever in the world 24 shillings is, is what it is.
I was going to say 288 pence, but that would have to be factored.
But a pound is 240 pence, so a pound and 48 pence, a pound four shillings.
Well, I'll be! That didn't take long at all!
And I'm a iggorunt Merkin!
Cheers!
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John Woodgate
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Sun Dec 19, 2004 2:03 pm Post subject:
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I read in sci.electronics.design that Richard The Troll
<rtt@example.net> wrote (in <pan.2004.12.19.07.42.21.803182@example.net>
) about 'Circuit that produces a tingling sensation in the fingers.', on
Sun, 19 Dec 2004:
| Quote: | Well, yeah, that is pretty stupid, if you paid with a $100.
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it would be pretty stupid if he paid with a $30 bill, since they are
exceedingly rare. (;-)
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Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk |
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John Woodgate
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I read in sci.electronics.design that Rich Grise <rich@example.net>
wrote (in <pan.2004.12.19.07.57.45.980315@example.net>) about 'Circuit
that produces a tingling sensation in the fingers.', on Sun, 19 Dec
2004:
| Quote: | And I'm a iggorunt Merkin!
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Yes, but you CAN do arithmetic. Just don't let it go to your head. (;-)
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk |
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