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Mon Jan 03, 2005 5:16 am Post subject:
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The Journal of American Science - Call for Papers
The new international academic journal "The Journal of American
Science" (ISSN: 1545-1003) is inviting you to publish your papers.
Please visit http://www.sciencepub.org and send your manuscript to
editor@sciencepub.net.
As a formal academic journal, The Journal of American Science is
registered in the United States.
The journal will be supported by the paper contributors. To cover the
printing cost, this journal will only charge authors the really
printing fee (about US$30/printed page). At least 1 hard copy a printed
journal for each author and 20 offprints (reprints) for each article
will be provided to authors by free charge. If you have anything
including reports and review papers to be published, it is a good
chance. At least it is better than letting your precious reports sleep
in your drawers. If you have some friends for this, let them contribute
papers also. Let's work together to promulgate our research
results/opinions, to do what we can do.
Papers in all the fields are accepted: including natural science and
social science. |
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Mark Gingrich
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Mon Jan 03, 2005 5:16 am Post subject:
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"science" touted one reason for publishing in the _Journal of American
Science_:
| Quote: | ... At least it is better than letting your precious reports sleep
in your drawers. ...
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And far more hygienic, too. In fact, the precious reports I've been
carrying around in my own drawers have caused this rather embarrassing
itch...
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Mark Gingrich grinch@rahul.net San Leandro, California |
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robert bristow-johnson
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Mon Jan 03, 2005 6:52 am Post subject:
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in article 1104711396.726575.162450@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com, science at
sciencepub@gmail.com wrote on 01/02/2005 19:16:
| Quote: | As a formal academic journal, The Journal of American Science is
registered in the United States.
The journal will be supported by the paper contributors. To cover the
printing cost, this journal will only charge authors the really
printing fee (about US$30/printed page). At least 1 hard copy a printed
journal for each author and 20 offprints (reprints) for each article
will be provided to authors by free charge.
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free? sounds like it's approximately US$1.50 per printed page for those
offprints.
ya know, i've never heard of this journal and i hold nothing against it or
academics in general, but there it's a skewed economy that any journal
expects or requires payment from those who are providing content for it
(rather than the other way around). subscribers should be paying money to
get the journal and should expect to derive benefit from it. because of the
"honor" and visibility of publication, i can understand that journals that
are pretty esoteric in scope might not pay (nor be able to pay) its authors,
but making them pay for offering material (that reviewers deem has value) to
be published is a backward economy. i hope that no potential author feels
so hard-up that they submit anything to this journal.
--
r b-j rbj@audioimagination.com
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Jerry Avins
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Mon Jan 03, 2005 7:58 am Post subject:
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science wrote:
| Quote: | The Journal of American Science - Call for Papers
The new international academic journal "The Journal of American
Science" (ISSN: 1545-1003) is inviting you to publish your papers.
Please visit http://www.sciencepub.org and send your manuscript to
editor@sciencepub.net.
As a formal academic journal, The Journal of American Science is
registered in the United States.
The journal will be supported by the paper contributors. To cover the
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Will be. Hmm...
| Quote: | printing cost, this journal will only charge authors the really
printing fee (about US$30/printed page). ...
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"The really printing fee." I hope the editorial quality will improve as
time passes. Or will authors have to pay for that too?
.... At least 1 hard copy a printed
| Quote: | journal for each author and 20 offprints (reprints) for each article
will be provided to authors by free charge. If you have anything
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It seems like some sort of vanity press operation.
| Quote: | including reports and review papers to be published, it is a good
chance. At least it is better than letting your precious reports sleep
in your drawers. If you have some friends for this, let them contribute
papers also. Let's work together to promulgate our research
results/opinions, to do what we can do.
Papers in all the fields are accepted: including natural science and
social science.
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The more the merrier, eh? Come one, come all! Only $30 a page!
Jerry
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Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.
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Rick Lyons
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Mon Jan 03, 2005 7:25 pm Post subject:
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On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 20:52:20 -0500, robert bristow-johnson
<rbj@audioimagination.com> wrote:
(snipped)
| Quote: | offprints.
ya know, i've never heard of this journal and i hold nothing against it or
academics in general, but there it's a skewed economy that any journal
expects or requires payment from those who are providing content for it
(rather than the other way around). subscribers should be paying money to
get the journal and should expect to derive benefit from it. because of the
"honor" and visibility of publication, i can understand that journals that
are pretty esoteric in scope might not pay (nor be able to pay) its authors,
but making them pay for offering material (that reviewers deem has value) to
be published is a backward economy. i hope that no potential author feels
so hard-up that they submit anything to this journal.
--
r b-j rbj@audioimagination.com
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Hi R B-J,
your post reminded me of the GSPx Conference in
San Jose (CA) last year. I submitted a little DSP tutorial
paper, to the Conference folk, and they accepted it.
Then some weeks later I received an E-mail saying that as
a presenter I'd be able to "register" for the
conference for only(!!) $650.
Wow. I knew they wouldn't pay me to make
a presentation, but I sure as Heck didn't
expect to pay THEM to make a presentation.
[-Rick-] |
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robert bristow-johnson
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Mon Jan 03, 2005 10:58 pm Post subject:
Re: The Journal of American Science - Call for Papers |
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in article 41d954c0.275300078@news.sf.sbcglobal.net, Rick Lyons at
r.lyons@_BOGUS_ieee.org wrote on 01/03/2005 09:25:
| Quote: | On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 20:52:20 -0500, robert bristow-johnson
rbj@audioimagination.com> wrote:
(snipped)
ya know, i've never heard of this journal and i hold nothing against it or
academics in general, but there it's a skewed economy that any journal
expects or requires payment from those who are providing content for it
(rather than the other way around). subscribers should be paying money to
get the journal and should expect to derive benefit from it. because of the
"honor" and visibility of publication, i can understand that journals that
are pretty esoteric in scope might not pay (nor be able to pay) its authors,
but making them pay for offering material (that reviewers deem has value) to
be published is a backward economy. i hope that no potential author feels
so hard-up that they submit anything to this journal.
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| Quote: | your post reminded me of the GSPx Conference in
San Jose (CA) last year. I submitted a little DSP tutorial
paper, to the Conference folk, and they accepted it.
Then some weeks later I received an E-mail saying that as
a presenter I'd be able to "register" for the
conference for only(!!) $650.
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pricey.
| Quote: | Wow. I knew they wouldn't pay me to make
a presentation, but I sure as Heck didn't
expect to pay THEM to make a presentation.
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shoulda told 'em to go copulate themselves.
the AES always gives free convention registration to presenters, session
chairs, and others who contribute content. they even have a little program
for college kids to get in free if they help around at the convention. it
does not cover any transportation/housing costs.
i review for the journal, but it doesn't save me my $90/year membership fee.
--
r b-j rbj@audioimagination.com
"Imagination is more important than knowledge." |
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John E. Hadstate
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Tue Jan 04, 2005 2:32 am Post subject:
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"science" <sciencepub@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1104711396.726575.162450@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | The Journal of American Science - Call for Papers
The new international academic journal "The Journal of
American
Science" (ISSN: 1545-1003)
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Is it just me, or is there something chauvinistic about a
journal of *American* science flogging itself as "The new
*international* academic journal" <emphasis mine>? |
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Rune Allnor
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Tue Jan 04, 2005 2:58 am Post subject:
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It's not just you. I'd be happy to write for a journal issued by
whatever
American institute or organization, but in the journal of American
*science*...
Rune |
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Jerry Avins
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John Monro
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Tue Jan 04, 2005 7:58 am Post subject:
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John E. Hadstate wrote:
| Quote: | "science" <sciencepub@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1104711396.726575.162450@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
The Journal of American Science - Call for Papers
The new international academic journal "The Journal of
American
Science" (ISSN: 1545-1003)
Is it just me, or is there something chauvinistic about a
journal of *American* science flogging itself as "The new
*international* academic journal" <emphasis mine>?
John, |
It is not just you. I find it chauvinistic for the publishers to use
the term "American" in the title to indicate that the Journal is of, by
and for the people of the United States of America. The journal's web
site says that the language to be used is "American English" -- no
mention of Canadian English (which is really English English) or Spanish
or Portuguese, so it should really be called "The Journal of USA Science."
Regards,
John |
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Country_Chiel
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Wed Jan 05, 2005 8:01 am Post subject:
Re: The Journal of American Science - Call for Papers |
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"robert bristow-johnson" <rbj@audioimagination.com> wrote in message
news:BDFE0F83.38DE%rbj@audioimagination.com...
| Quote: | in article 1104711396.726575.162450@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com, science
at
sciencepub@gmail.com wrote on 01/02/2005 19:16:
As a formal academic journal, The Journal of American Science is
registered in the United States.
The journal will be supported by the paper contributors. To cover the
printing cost, this journal will only charge authors the really
printing fee (about US$30/printed page). At least 1 hard copy a printed
journal for each author and 20 offprints (reprints) for each article
will be provided to authors by free charge.
free? sounds like it's approximately US$1.50 per printed page for those
offprints.
ya know, i've never heard of this journal and i hold nothing against it or
academics in general, but there it's a skewed economy that any journal
expects or requires payment from those who are providing content for it
(rather than the other way around). subscribers should be paying money to
get the journal and should expect to derive benefit from it. because of
the
"honor" and visibility of publication, i can understand that journals that
are pretty esoteric in scope might not pay (nor be able to pay) its
authors,
but making them pay for offering material (that reviewers deem has value)
to
be published is a backward economy. i hope that no potential author feels
so hard-up that they submit anything to this journal.
--
r b-j rbj@audioimagination.com
"Imagination is more important than knowledge."
Disagree with both points of view. I am fed up with large publishers |
(including the IEE and IEEE - numerous other publishers like Elsevier and so
on) creaming a rich reward for the work of others. There was a day when you
typed a paper and hand wrote the equations and the journal at least went to
the bother of type-setting it for you. Not now! God help you if you cannot
use LaTex (Word not being so popular nowadays but still reluctantly
accepted) and get the thing in its final form. The author is not paid, the
Editor is not paid (another academic),the reviewers are not paid - and what
does the publisher do - they charge large sums to Uni Libraries for these
papers. Papers which were written for free. Ok so this may well be no
problem in the rich US but what about other countries? So much is spent on
journal subscription that the real job of a library (that of collecting the
best books) suffers.
The sooner Universities run the whole show the better. Ok so there may well
have to be a small charge to pay for bandwidth - let's say a paper should
cost 10-50C each from a web page - not bad.Incidentally I often see authors
flaunting the copyright laws (and rightly so as they wrote the bloody thing
in the first place and it is their work) and putting pdfs of their papers on
their own personal web pages. I suppose the journals have every right to sue
but do they ever?
So hear is my solution
All academics and other authors write their papers for free and therefore
this information should be available for free (the review process also being
free). Let Unis do the publishing on the Web - don't have real hard copies
any more.In other words we keep the same system but the Unis run it for a
nominal charge if anything.The free dissemination of knowledge(as in this
newsgroup!) is a must.
Country Chiel |
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Country_Chiel
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Wed Jan 05, 2005 8:01 am Post subject:
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"John Monro" <johnmonro@DELETE.optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:41da0bcc$0$2507$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
| Quote: | John E. Hadstate wrote:
"science" <sciencepub@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1104711396.726575.162450@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
The Journal of American Science - Call for Papers
The new international academic journal "The Journal of
American
Science" (ISSN: 1545-1003)
Is it just me, or is there something chauvinistic about a
journal of *American* science flogging itself as "The new
*international* academic journal" <emphasis mine>?
John,
It is not just you. I find it chauvinistic for the publishers to use
the term "American" in the title to indicate that the Journal is of, by
and for the people of the United States of America. The journal's web
site says that the language to be used is "American English" -- no
mention of Canadian English (which is really English English) or Spanish
or Portuguese, so it should really be called "The Journal of USA Science."
Regards,
John
I have no objection to the name - the US has a good reputation in Science so |
they may as well milk it.However the system stinks.
Country Chiel |
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John Monro
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Thu Jan 06, 2005 2:35 pm Post subject:
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Country_Chiel wrote:
| Quote: | "John Monro" <johnmonro@DELETE.optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:41da0bcc$0$2507$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
John E. Hadstate wrote:
"science" <sciencepub@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1104711396.726575.162450@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
The Journal of American Science - Call for Papers
The new international academic journal "The Journal of
American
Science" (ISSN: 1545-1003)
Is it just me, or is there something chauvinistic about a
journal of *American* science flogging itself as "The new
*international* academic journal" <emphasis mine>?
John,
It is not just you. I find it chauvinistic for the publishers to use
the term "American" in the title to indicate that the Journal is of, by
and for the people of the United States of America. The journal's web
site says that the language to be used is "American English" -- no
mention of Canadian English (which is really English English) or Spanish
or Portuguese, so it should really be called "The Journal of USA Science."
Regards,
John
I have no objection to the name - the US has a good reputation in Science so
they may as well milk it.However the system stinks.
Country Chiel
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By the way, did anyone notice the standard of the English in that web
site? Not exactly wrong, but a little awkward.
I hope the web-site author is not the editor of the Journal!
Regards,
John
Regards,
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Richard Dobson
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Thu Jan 06, 2005 4:14 pm Post subject:
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According to the web page source (which seeme to require at least one Chinese
font), the author is Hongbao Ma; so one can reasonably suppose that English is
not his mother tongue. But then, I suspect the natural subtle elegance of
Mandarin does not always translate easily into American English!
Richard Dobson
John Monro wrote:
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| Quote: | By the way, did anyone notice the standard of the English in that web
site? Not exactly wrong, but a little awkward. I hope the web-site
author is not the editor of the Journal! |
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