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David Kanter
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 2:00 am    Post subject: Large open source FPGAs? Reply with quote

Hi,

I am interested in doing some performance profiling and benchmarking
using FPGA software. Right now, I am looking for a large open source
FPGA to play around with. Unfortunately, I don't have a good sense of
what constitutes a 'large' FPGA. Right now, I am working with a 35k
gate USB controller that was suggested to me (I believe it's available
through opencores.org). Does anyone have some other suggestions?

Thanks in advance, I would really appreciate some advice and guidance
on the matter.


David Kanter
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Marius Vollmer
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 2:41 am    Post subject: Re: Large open source FPGAs? Reply with quote

"David Kanter" <dkanter@gmail.com> writes:

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Does anyone have some other suggestions?

You could try LEON, a Sparc processor with AMBA and peripherals:

http://www.gaisler.com,

Direkt link to LEON, but a frame:

http://www.gaisler.com/products/leon2/leon_down.html

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Sylvain Munaut
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 2:42 am    Post subject: Re: Large open source FPGAs? Reply with quote

Hi

Quote:
I am interested in doing some performance profiling and benchmarking
using FPGA software. Right now, I am looking for a large open source
FPGA to play around with. Unfortunately, I don't have a good sense of
what constitutes a 'large' FPGA. Right now, I am working with a 35k
gate USB controller that was suggested to me (I believe it's available
through opencores.org). Does anyone have some other suggestions?

Well, "open source FPGA" is an abuse of language, a fpga is a hardware piece.
The "cores" or "IP blocks" you program/load in them are open sources.

If you're just looking for a "big" thing. Look at gaisler leon 3. It's a
complete SoC solution with differents cores in it, you can surely configure
it to become pretty large. And it's also more "polyvalent" since you have
cpu core, memory controller, pci , ...


Sylvain
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David Kanter
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 4:06 am    Post subject: Re: Large open source FPGAs? Reply with quote

Sylvain Munaut wrote:
Quote:
Hi

I am interested in doing some performance profiling and
benchmarking
using FPGA software. Right now, I am looking for a large open
source
FPGA to play around with. Unfortunately, I don't have a good sense
of
what constitutes a 'large' FPGA. Right now, I am working with a
35k
gate USB controller that was suggested to me (I believe it's
available
through opencores.org). Does anyone have some other suggestions?

Well, "open source FPGA" is an abuse of language, a fpga is a
hardware piece.
The "cores" or "IP blocks" you program/load in them are open sources.

I should have known that; thanks for the pointer. Nothing beats
looking like a n00b...

Quote:
If you're just looking for a "big" thing. Look at gaisler leon 3.
It's a
complete SoC solution with differents cores in it, you can surely
configure
it to become pretty large. And it's also more "polyvalent" since you
have
cpu core, memory controller, pci , ...

That might be interesting. My rationale for looking for something
"big" is that I would like to have reasonably long run times. The USB2
controller I was working with took under a minute to synthesize. One
of the problems is that I would like my workload to be as 'real world'
as possible, and testing EDA tools with tiny chips isn't very
interesting for those who really are using them for work.

I don't really know enough FPGA's to explain, but for an ASIC, I am
pretty sure that the time to do an extraction for a 1mm^2 chip will be
almost entirely uncorrelated to the time for an extraction of similar
quality on a 370mm^2 behemoth. The real issue is trying to get a
realistic workload and my feelings are that most of what I have seen at
opencores.org are 'small'.
Thanks for your help everyone I appreciate the comments!


David Kanter
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