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Rich Grise
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Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:14 am Post subject:
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On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 18:18:12 +0000, Joerg wrote:
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Wieeee, there is a god ;) :)
There always was. Some people believe in Him, some don't. (I do)
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An atheist is just a guy who has plonked God. ;-P
Cheers!
Rich |
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Joerg
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Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:15 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | I remain skeptical ;)
You ask for information then argue with the answer?
A possible answer... don't know if it follows the law and is legal ;)
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You should take statements in newsgroups like this as hints, often quite
valuable hints. It's not advice. Then take what you heard and present it
to a good patent attorney. That's were you get actual advice.
Regards, Joerg
http://www.analogconsultants.com |
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Ken Taylor
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Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:15 am Post subject:
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"Rich Grise" <richgrise@example.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.08.10.19.16.37.473886@example.net...
| Quote: | On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 18:18:12 +0000, Joerg wrote:
Hello,
Wieeee, there is a god ;) :)
There always was. Some people believe in Him, some don't. (I do)
An atheist is just a guy who has plonked God. ;-P
Cheers!
Rich
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God isn't dead - He just got the Hell out of here.
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Nick Maclaren
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Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:15 am Post subject:
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In article <SUsKe.1342$dk5.1102@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>,
Joerg <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:
| Quote: | I remain skeptical ;)
You ask for information then argue with the answer?
A possible answer... don't know if it follows the law and is legal ;)
You should take statements in newsgroups like this as hints, often quite
valuable hints. It's not advice. Then take what you heard and present it
to a good patent attorney. That's were you get actual advice.
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Now, that's good advice :-)
Regards,
Nick Maclaren. |
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John Fields
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Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:15 am Post subject:
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On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 00:19:15 +0200, "Skybuck Flying"
<nospam@hotmail.com> quoted:
| Quote: | So far, Microsoft hasn't been able to dent the Apple iPod dominance,
although the software giant has said it is working on music playing devices
that it plans to introduce later this year.
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Bill Gates and Steve Jobs are cut from the same cloth and they only
differ in what they want to keep secret.
Gates is an Intel freak and Jobs goes for Motorola. Different
address space mentalities, same goals.
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John Fields
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Skybuck Flying
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Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:15 am Post subject:
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Hmmmmm
http://www.techweb.com/wire/ebiz/168601146
Apple in trouble ? ;)
"
Did Microsoft Invent The iPod?
By TechWeb News
If you think Apple Computer's Steve Jobs invented the technology behind the
Apple iPod, don't bet your 60GB, 15,000-song model on it.
According to the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office, patent applications that
cover much of the technology associated with the iPod were submitted by
Microsoft, which has been on a patents tear recently filing thousands of
patents.
If the patents hold up on appeal, Apple could be accountable for royalties
on the spectacularly successful iPod. Jobs and others associated with Apple
filed for patents covering the technology in October, 2002, but that
application was rejected by the patent office last month. AppleInsider.com
reported the rejection this week.
Apple won't take the matter lying down. "Apple invented and publicly
released the iPod interface before the Microsoft patent application cited by
the (patent) examiner was filed," said an Apple spokesperson in a statement.
Apple also noted that the firm has received other patents for technology
relating to the iPod and in addition has other patents pending on the iPod.
The documents in the Patent Office do not mention the iPod by name. The
documents describe a "portable, pocked-sized multimedia asset player" that
can manipulate MP3 music files.
Microsoft's claim appears to center on the work of John C. Platt, a senior
researcher in the Knowledge Tools Group at Microsoft Research. According to
media reports, on behalf of Microsoft, Platt applied for the patent in May
of 2002 some five months before the Apple filing. Platt's application was
rejected in December 2004, but he amended it in April of this year and
Microsoft's pending patent was subsequently approved.
According to a citation on "Platt's home page, he and other colleagues at
Microsoft developed a paper in the 2001-2002 timeframe discussing AutoDJ, "a
system for automatically generating music playlists based on one or more
seed songs selected by a user."
Apple's iPod dominates the MP3 player market. The NPD Group has reported
that Apple has shipped nearly 22 million iPods. Predictions that Apple's
strength in the MP3 market would slip haven't borne out, and Apple accounts
for about 75 percent of MP3 players sold in the U.S.
So far, Microsoft hasn't been able to dent the Apple iPod dominance,
although the software giant has said it is working on music playing devices
that it plans to introduce later this year.
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keith
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Sun Aug 14, 2005 6:18 am Post subject:
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On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 18:14:38 -0500, John Fields wrote:
| Quote: | On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 00:19:15 +0200, "Skybuck Flying"
nospam@hotmail.com> quoted:
So far, Microsoft hasn't been able to dent the Apple iPod dominance,
although the software giant has said it is working on music playing devices
that it plans to introduce later this year.
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Bill Gates and Steve Jobs are cut from the same cloth and they only
differ in what they want to keep secret.
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...and how successfull they've been.
| Quote: | Gates is an Intel freak and Jobs goes for Motorola. Different
address space mentalities, same goals.
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Gates isn't an intel freak at all. M$ and I$ have never gotten along that
well together, and the SJ thing is another stick in Billy's eye.
....and who cares which end of the egg is cracked?
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