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Del Cecchi
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 9:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Compiler/Architecture course on modern hardware Reply with quote

Stephen Fuld wrote:
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"John Savard" <jsavard@excxn.aNOSPAMb.cdn.invalid> wrote in message
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On 18 Aug 2005 08:04:36 GMT, nmm1@cus.cam.ac.uk (Nick Maclaren) wrote,
in part:

In article <4303dfb6.1833947@news.usenetzone.com>,
John Savard <jsavard@excxn.aNOSPAMb.cdn.invalid> wrote:

O, Mighty IBM, save us!

Doing so is no longer IBM corporate strategy. Sorry.

Not that I can blame them. A POWER5 workstation powered by OS/2, however
cute and interesting it might be, isn't going to displace the Microsoft
hold on the desktop.

Instead, IBM is making money where its name means something, in the
mainframe market, with its various z/Architecture machines.


Del can chime in here, but I also believe they are making lots of money on
AS/400s (I series?). Of course they also make money on things like selling
their fab services and some special purpose things.

Probably they are. I am now part of the rent-a-geek (E&TS) operation)


As for wanting a cheap power5 box, I submit there is such a thing. See
the abstracted press release below.




IBM introduces new low-priced POWER5 server based on Linux

New IBM OpenPower system delivers superior virtualization and
performance to entry-level server market




Armonk, NY, January 24, 2005—IBM today announced it will offer a new,
low-priced IBM POWER5™ processor-based server running the Linux®
operating system (OS). The introduction of the IBM eServer™ OpenPower™
710 marks IBM's continued commitment to extend POWER5 performance for
Linux environments to companies of all sizes.

..........

The IBM eServer OpenPower 710 is a reliable, one to two-way rack-mount
system that supports the Linux operating system as distributed by both
Red Hat and SUSE LINUX. The system is tuned for Linux for optimal
performance and utilizes high-end features of larger server systems such
as IBM's proven 64-bit Power Architecture™ technology and optional
mainframe-inspired virtualization and Micro-Partitioning™ capabilities
unique to POWER5 systems.
........................

Pricing and Availability
IBM plans to make the IBM eServer OpenPower 710 available on February
18, 2005 with 1.65GHz POWER5 microprocessors. The system will be
available in a 1- to 2-way rack with maximum memory of 32GB. The
OpenPower 710 supports Novell SUSE LINUX Enterprise Server 9 (SLES 9),
and Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS 3 (RHEL AS 3). The OpenPower 710 will
have a starting price of $3,449 (excluding operating system) and
includes a 1.65GHz processor, one gigabyte (GB) memory, 73GB 10K rpm
disk drive, DVD-ROM and three year next business day warranty.

...........................

Statements of IBM's future intent are subject to change without notice.

Prices based on U.S. list price. Reseller prices may vary.


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Benchmark results current as of January 14, 2005. IBM SPEC results
submitted on January 21, 2005.

1 Based on 2-way 1.65GHz POWER5 OpenPower710 Linpack HPC result of 12.12
Rmax GFlops vs. 2-way 1.6GHz Itanium 2 HP rx1620 result of 12.05 Rmax
GFlops vs. 2-way 1.6GHz Itanium 2 HP rx2620 result of 1.98 Rmax GFlops.
2-way 2.2GHz PowerPC® IBM eServer BladeCenter JS20 Linpack HPC result is
13.27 Rmax GFlops. See http://www.top500.org/lists/linpack.php for
additional benchmark results.

2 Based on 2-way 1.65GHz POWER5 OpenPower710 SPECompM2001 (peak) result
running 2 threads per processor of 5,282 vs. 2.4GHz Opteron 850 Sun Fire
V40z SPECompM2001 (peak) result running 1 thread per processor of 5,000.
The 2-way 1.6GHz POWER5 IBM eServer p5 520 result running 2 threads per
processor is 5,287. Source: http://www.spec.org/omp/results/ompm2001.html

IBM, the IBM logo, BladeCenter, eServer, Micro-Partitioning, OpenPower,
POWER, Power Architecture, POWER5 and PowerPC are trademarks or
registered trademarks of International Business Machines Corporation in
the United States or other countries or both.

Linux is a trademark of Linus Torvalds in the United States, other
countries or both.

UNIX is a registered trademark of The OpenGroup in the United States and
other countries.

Myrinet is a trademark of Myricom, Inc.

Itanium is a trademark of Intel Corporation in the United States, other
countries, or both.

SPEC OMP is a trademark of the Standard Performance Evaluation Corp (SPEC).





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Del Cecchi
"This post is my own and doesn’t necessarily represent IBM’s positions,
strategies or opinions.”
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 10:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Compiler/Architecture course on modern hardware Reply with quote

"John Savard" <jsavard@excxn.aNOSPAMb.cdn.invalid> wrote in message
news:43049443.652535@news.usenetzone.com...
Quote:
On 18 Aug 2005 08:04:36 GMT, nmm1@cus.cam.ac.uk (Nick Maclaren) wrote,
in part:
In article <4303dfb6.1833947@news.usenetzone.com>,
John Savard <jsavard@excxn.aNOSPAMb.cdn.invalid> wrote:

O, Mighty IBM, save us!

Doing so is no longer IBM corporate strategy. Sorry.

Not that I can blame them. A POWER5 workstation powered by OS/2, however
cute and interesting it might be, isn't going to displace the Microsoft
hold on the desktop.

Instead, IBM is making money where its name means something, in the
mainframe market, with its various z/Architecture machines.

Del can chime in here, but I also believe they are making lots of money on
AS/400s (I series?). Of course they also make money on things like selling
their fab services and some special purpose things.

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- Stephen Fuld
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