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Al Clark
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 10:03 pm    Post subject: How about Best Text Editor? Reply with quote
Lately, there has been a thread on the worst text editor (I vote for
Edlin). Wouldn't a discussion of the best text editor be more useful?

I realize that the unix crowd is going to start talking about vi & pico.

I am held hostage by Bill Gates and I like to kill trees (print my source).

My favorite is still PFE because it prints nice formatted pages with
headers, indent control etc. I also like the built in command shell that
allows me to call executables and bat files and see the results in the
editor. I use built in editors to write most of my source code (VisualDSP+
& Visual C)

PFE an old program that existed in Win 3.1 days. I would love a
freeware/shareware replacement.


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Tim Wescott
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 11:16 pm    Post subject: Re: How about Best Text Editor? Reply with quote
Al Clark wrote:

Quote:
Lately, there has been a thread on the worst text editor (I vote for
Edlin). Wouldn't a discussion of the best text editor be more useful?

I realize that the unix crowd is going to start talking about vi & pico.

I am held hostage by Bill Gates and I like to kill trees (print my source).

My favorite is still PFE because it prints nice formatted pages with
headers, indent control etc. I also like the built in command shell that
allows me to call executables and bat files and see the results in the
editor. I use built in editors to write most of my source code (VisualDSP+
& Visual C)

PFE an old program that existed in Win 3.1 days. I would love a
freeware/shareware replacement.


There's a 32 bit version of PFE around. It's reported to no longer be

maintained, but it works well and doesn't seem to have too many bugs.
You can find it by searching for "programmers file editor" on the web.

I'm playing with UltraEdit but may still end up buying a copy of
CodeWrite, even if it isn't supported.

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Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
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Tauno Voipio
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 11:25 pm    Post subject: Re: How about Best Text Editor? Reply with quote
Al Clark wrote:
Quote:
Lately, there has been a thread on the worst text editor (I vote for
Edlin). Wouldn't a discussion of the best text editor be more useful?

I realize that the unix crowd is going to start talking about vi & pico.

I am held hostage by Bill Gates and I like to kill trees (print my source).

My favorite is still PFE because it prints nice formatted pages with
headers, indent control etc. I also like the built in command shell that
allows me to call executables and bat files and see the results in the
editor. I use built in editors to write most of my source code (VisualDSP+
& Visual C)

PFE an old program that existed in Win 3.1 days. I would love a
freeware/shareware replacement.


In Windows, my vote to Codewright, despite its fate.

Under X, usually Nedit, sometimes XEmacs.

For Unixish text environment, Joe - nearly the old
good WordStar of the CP/M days.

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Gary Peek
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 11:28 pm    Post subject: Re: How about Best Text Editor? Reply with quote
Al Clark wrote:
Quote:
PFE an old program that existed in Win 3.1 days. I would love a
freeware/shareware replacement.

PFE32 for me. The only thing I would sometimes like to do that it can't
is to increase the font size temporarily to print something I can't
otherwise see well.

Gary Peek
industrologic.com
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Mouarf
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 11:43 pm    Post subject: Re: How about Best Text Editor? Reply with quote
to me Context is very interesting...

"Gary Peek" <mylastname@mycompanyname.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
41DD8367.10109@mycompanyname.com...
Quote:
Al Clark wrote:
PFE an old program that existed in Win 3.1 days. I would love a
freeware/shareware replacement.

PFE32 for me. The only thing I would sometimes like to do that it can't
is to increase the font size temporarily to print something I can't
otherwise see well.

Gary Peek
industrologic.com
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j.b. miller
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 12:15 am    Post subject: Re: How about Best Text Editor? Reply with quote
A long,long time ago, back in the TRS80 Model III days there was a text
editor in an 80 Micro mag that was really great. It only took up 2K bytes(
2000 bytes), yet had all the 'normal' features.
Load/save/merge,insert/delete,cursor positioning,etc.
I'd like someone to compare that versus the 'bloatware' that we now have to
put up with.
Jay
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Al Clark
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 12:28 am    Post subject: Re: How about Best Text Editor? Reply with quote
Tim Wescott <tim@wescottnospamdesign.com> wrote in
news:10tr038jeuh6737@corp.supernews.com:

Quote:
Al Clark wrote:

Lately, there has been a thread on the worst text editor (I vote for
Edlin). Wouldn't a discussion of the best text editor be more useful?

I realize that the unix crowd is going to start talking about vi &
pico.

I am held hostage by Bill Gates and I like to kill trees (print my
source).

My favorite is still PFE because it prints nice formatted pages with
headers, indent control etc. I also like the built in command shell
that allows me to call executables and bat files and see the results
in the editor. I use built in editors to write most of my source code
(VisualDSP+ & Visual C)

PFE an old program that existed in Win 3.1 days. I would love a
freeware/shareware replacement.


There's a 32 bit version of PFE around. It's reported to no longer be
maintained, but it works well and doesn't seem to have too many bugs.
You can find it by searching for "programmers file editor" on the web.

I'm playing with UltraEdit but may still end up buying a copy of
CodeWrite, even if it isn't supported.


That's actually the version I use. Thanks



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Al Clark
Danville Signal Processing, Inc.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Purveyors of Fine DSP Hardware and other Cool Stuff
Available at http://www.danvillesignal.com
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Tim Wescott
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 12:49 am    Post subject: Re: How about Best Text Editor? Reply with quote
Al Clark wrote:
Quote:
Lately, there has been a thread on the worst text editor (I vote for
Edlin). Wouldn't a discussion of the best text editor be more useful?

I realize that the unix crowd is going to start talking about vi & pico.

I am held hostage by Bill Gates and I like to kill trees (print my source).

My favorite is still PFE because it prints nice formatted pages with
headers, indent control etc. I also like the built in command shell that
allows me to call executables and bat files and see the results in the
editor. I use built in editors to write most of my source code (VisualDSP+
& Visual C)

PFE an old program that existed in Win 3.1 days. I would love a
freeware/shareware replacement.


Actually the "worst editor" thread started from someone's question about

CodeWright (which is apparently not going to be supported). I'd sure
like to find a free/cheap replacement for CodeWrite, but I may end up
buying CodeWrite for the following features, of which UltraEdit appears
to only have the first two:

1. Column editing. Can't be beat.

2. Regular expressions. Gotta have 'em.

3. IDE-like features -- I can compile from it, and after some work with
scripts it'll go to source lines with errors automagicaly.

4. Point & click for most editing -- I don't want to learn a zillion
stupid key combinations, no matter how cool they are (hence I don't like
either vi or emacs).

5. Project-based find-in-files. Find-and-replace-in-files is a plus,
but I'm willing to plow through sed manuals for this if necessary.

--

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com
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Alan Balmer
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 1:11 am    Post subject: Re: How about Best Text Editor? Reply with quote
On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 11:49:29 -0800, Tim Wescott
<tim@wescottnospamdesign.com> wrote:

Quote:
Al Clark wrote:
Lately, there has been a thread on the worst text editor (I vote for
Edlin). Wouldn't a discussion of the best text editor be more useful?

I realize that the unix crowd is going to start talking about vi & pico.

I am held hostage by Bill Gates and I like to kill trees (print my source).

My favorite is still PFE because it prints nice formatted pages with
headers, indent control etc. I also like the built in command shell that
allows me to call executables and bat files and see the results in the
editor. I use built in editors to write most of my source code (VisualDSP+
& Visual C)

PFE an old program that existed in Win 3.1 days. I would love a
freeware/shareware replacement.


Actually the "worst editor" thread started from someone's question about
CodeWright (which is apparently not going to be supported). I'd sure
like to find a free/cheap replacement for CodeWrite, but I may end up
buying CodeWrite for the following features, of which UltraEdit appears
to only have the first two:

1. Column editing. Can't be beat.

2. Regular expressions. Gotta have 'em.

3. IDE-like features -- I can compile from it, and after some work with
scripts it'll go to source lines with errors automagicaly.

4. Point & click for most editing -- I don't want to learn a zillion
stupid key combinations, no matter how cool they are (hence I don't like
either vi or emacs).

5. Project-based find-in-files. Find-and-replace-in-files is a plus,
but I'm willing to plow through sed manuals for this if necessary.

So get Slickedit. All the above and much more, available for a number
of platforms, and not about to go out of business.

--
Al Balmer
Balmer Consulting
removebalmerconsultingthis@att.net
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Rich Walker
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 1:30 am    Post subject: Re: How about Best Text Editor? Reply with quote
Tim Wescott <tim@wescottnospamdesign.com> writes:

[snip discussion]
Quote:

1. Column editing. Can't be beat.

check

Quote:

2. Regular expressions. Gotta have 'em.

Edit -> Search -> Advanced Search And Replace -> (various regexp things)

check

Quote:
3. IDE-like features -- I can compile from it, and after some work with scripts it'll go to source
lines with errors automagicaly.

Tools -> Compile

(followed by)

Compile -> Next Error
Compile -> Previous Error


Quote:
4. Point & click for most editing -- I don't want to learn a zillion stupid key combinations, no
matter how cool they are (hence I don't like either vi or emacs).

Check

Quote:

5. Project-based find-in-files. Find-and-replace-in-files is a plus, but I'm willing to plow
through sed manuals for this if necessary.

Cscope -> (all kinds of find things)


Check.

Looks like you need to take a look at a recent copy of Emacs. It even
has a "File" menu these days.

cheers, Rich.

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technical director 251 Liverpool Road |
need a Hand? London N1 1LX | +UK 20 7700 2487
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Richard
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 2:10 am    Post subject: Re: How about Best Text Editor? Reply with quote
Alan Balmer <albalmer@att.net> wrote in
news:jp6rt0p6vng85mr0tu1r9qgtctdjsa5ab5@4ax.com:

Quote:
On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 11:49:29 -0800, Tim Wescott
tim@wescottnospamdesign.com> wrote:

Al Clark wrote:
Lately, there has been a thread on the worst text editor (I vote for
Edlin). Wouldn't a discussion of the best text editor be more
useful?

I realize that the unix crowd is going to start talking about vi &
pico.

I am held hostage by Bill Gates and I like to kill trees (print my
source).

My favorite is still PFE because it prints nice formatted pages with
headers, indent control etc. I also like the built in command shell
that allows me to call executables and bat files and see the results
in the editor. I use built in editors to write most of my source
code (VisualDSP+ & Visual C)

PFE an old program that existed in Win 3.1 days. I would love a
freeware/shareware replacement.


Actually the "worst editor" thread started from someone's question
about CodeWright (which is apparently not going to be supported). I'd
sure like to find a free/cheap replacement for CodeWrite, but I may
end up buying CodeWrite for the following features, of which UltraEdit
appears to only have the first two:

1. Column editing. Can't be beat.

2. Regular expressions. Gotta have 'em.

3. IDE-like features -- I can compile from it, and after some work
with scripts it'll go to source lines with errors automagicaly.

4. Point & click for most editing -- I don't want to learn a zillion
stupid key combinations, no matter how cool they are (hence I don't
like either vi or emacs).

5. Project-based find-in-files. Find-and-replace-in-files is a plus,
but I'm willing to plow through sed manuals for this if necessary.

So get Slickedit. All the above and much more, available for a number
of platforms, and not about to go out of business.


I already use Codewright, and will stick with it until Windoze breaks it.
I have never needed to use their support anyway, so it really makes no
difference to me whether it is still supported or not, it just keeps on
working.

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Richard
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Alan Balmer
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 2:45 am    Post subject: Re: How about Best Text Editor? Reply with quote
On 6 Jan 2005 21:10:04 GMT, Richard <RichardRapier@netscape.net>
wrote:

Quote:

So get Slickedit. All the above and much more, available for a number
of platforms, and not about to go out of business.


I already use Codewright, and will stick with it until Windoze breaks it.
I have never needed to use their support anyway, so it really makes no
difference to me whether it is still supported or not, it just keeps on
working.

Good enough reason. My advice was for the OP (other person) who
planned to go buy a copy.

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Al Balmer
Balmer Consulting
removebalmerconsultingthis@att.net
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Ian Bell
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 3:04 am    Post subject: Re: How about Best Text Editor? Reply with quote
Al Clark wrote:

Quote:
Lately, there has been a thread on the worst text editor (I vote for
Edlin). Wouldn't a discussion of the best text editor be more useful?


Not really. it is all just a matter of opinion.

Ian
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Richard
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 3:05 am    Post subject: Re: How about Best Text Editor? Reply with quote
Alan Balmer <albalmer@att.net> wrote in
news:r9crt09744kg60frcp4enm22nedmpu6be0@4ax.com:

Quote:
On 6 Jan 2005 21:10:04 GMT, Richard <RichardRapier@netscape.net
wrote:


So get Slickedit. All the above and much more, available for a
number of platforms, and not about to go out of business.


I already use Codewright, and will stick with it until Windoze breaks
it. I have never needed to use their support anyway, so it really
makes no difference to me whether it is still supported or not, it
just keeps on working.

Good enough reason. My advice was for the OP (other person) who
planned to go buy a copy.


Given my experience with it, I would have no problems recommending someone
purchase it, despite it's discontinuation. It has worked fine for me on
Win 98, 2000, NT 4.0, and WinXP.

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Richard
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Alan Balmer
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 4:38 am    Post subject: Re: How about Best Text Editor? Reply with quote
On 6 Jan 2005 22:05:21 GMT, Richard <RichardRapier@netscape.net>
wrote:

Quote:
Alan Balmer <albalmer@att.net> wrote in
news:r9crt09744kg60frcp4enm22nedmpu6be0@4ax.com:

On 6 Jan 2005 21:10:04 GMT, Richard <RichardRapier@netscape.net
wrote:


So get Slickedit. All the above and much more, available for a
number of platforms, and not about to go out of business.


I already use Codewright, and will stick with it until Windoze breaks
it. I have never needed to use their support anyway, so it really
makes no difference to me whether it is still supported or not, it
just keeps on working.

Good enough reason. My advice was for the OP (other person) who
planned to go buy a copy.


Given my experience with it, I would have no problems recommending someone
purchase it, despite it's discontinuation. It has worked fine for me on
Win 98, 2000, NT 4.0, and WinXP.

Not to beat a dead horse, and I'm not a Codewright expert, though I've
used it (have you actually compared it with Slickedit?), but for the
money I'd still recommend Slickedit. It's available for platforms
other than Windows, too. If there's no interest in other platforms,
Multi-Edit is also good, and cheaper.

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Al Balmer
Balmer Consulting
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