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Tim Wescott
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Sat Jan 08, 2005 1:07 am Post subject:
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Alan Balmer wrote:
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| Quote: | Good grief. To repeat the above:
My advice was for Tim Wescott, who planned to go buy a copy, not for
you.
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Enough of this thread.
Nope; one more: thanks. |
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Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
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Leif Holmgren
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Sat Jan 08, 2005 4:06 am Post subject:
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Ian Bell wrote:
| Quote: | Al Clark wrote:
Not really. it is all just a matter of opinion.
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Agree, and just like a talented programmer can write Fortran in any
programming language he/she does not need an editor. They just copy
direcly from the keyboard into the compiler, if they use a compiler at all.
$FORTRAN TT:
/Leif |
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Ed Beroset
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Sat Jan 08, 2005 7:23 am Post subject:
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Tim Wescott wrote:
| Quote: | Ed Beroset wrote:
I've used a number of editors, including CodeWrite. These days, I
find that I use gvim (Graphical Vi iMproved) which has most of what
you've got on your requirements list if you can get over the mental
hurdle of actually considering a vi derivative. :-)
I'm not sure what you mean by "point and click for most editing" since
most of my editing involves typing. I wouldn't really want to have a
pickboard on the screen to choose letters, but I suppose that it could
be a feature to some. E.g. I built a system like that for a
quadrapalegic fellow I knew some years ago.
Point and click to locate the cursor, highlight text, define blocks
(possibly columnar -- I can't verbalize how handy that is, but it is),
click and drag to move things.
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Oh, OK. Here's how that all works using gvim:
1. Point+click locates the cursor
2. Click, drag, release highlights text
3. Click, ctrl-v, shift+click defines a columnar block
4. cut (button, menu item or keyboard) and paste (button, menu item or
keyboard) is the method I use to move things
| Quote: | Regular typing for composition, of course.
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Understood. Also, if it helps, I'm not an "editor evangelist" -- just
somebody who got tired of being an editor nomad. In my case, I
calculated that my brain cells had enough capacity to learn one more
editor, but I vowed to make it my last one. I've been happy with my
choice, but I use the editor daily and I am a very fast typist. If your
usage is only occasional, or if you are a two-finger typist, you will
definitely want something else. I hope that helps.
IMHO, there's very little objective information about editors available.
Every single one of them is "Best In Universe For All Purposes And All
Users" according to their users. In sorting out evangelists from
pragmatists in general, I often find it useful to ask, "In what
circumstances would this method/tool/technique be inappropriate?" If I
get the answer that it's univerally applicable, I usually conclude that
I'm talking to an evangelist and discount their "information"
proportionately.
Ed |
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Tim Wescott
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Sat Jan 08, 2005 9:51 pm Post subject:
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Ed Beroset wrote:
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Oh, OK. Here's how that all works using gvim:
1. Point+click locates the cursor
2. Click, drag, release highlights text
3. Click, ctrl-v, shift+click defines a columnar block
4. cut (button, menu item or keyboard) and paste (button, menu item or
keyboard) is the method I use to move things
Regular typing for composition, of course.
Understood. Also, if it helps, I'm not an "editor evangelist" -- just
somebody who got tired of being an editor nomad. In my case, I
calculated that my brain cells had enough capacity to learn one more
editor, but I vowed to make it my last one. I've been happy with my
choice, but I use the editor daily and I am a very fast typist. If your
usage is only occasional, or if you are a two-finger typist, you will
definitely want something else. I hope that helps.
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Actually I spend enough time at the keyboard that I've switched to
Dvorak layout -- I got a 20% speedup in typing speed and I don't have to
worry about anyone else messing with my machine (nor, unfortunately, do
I have to ask myself if I can be productive on a QWERTY keyboard -- but
then, its so broken they had to print the legend on the key caps!).
Does gvim do syntax highlighting, and can you configure the syntax
highlighting with scripts?
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Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
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Siddharth Choudhuri
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Sat Jan 08, 2005 10:30 pm Post subject:
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| Quote: | Does gvim do syntax highlighting, and can you configure the syntax
highlighting with scripts?
Yes, it does. Esc-> : -> syn on. You can control syntax highlighting by |
editing a configuration file and sourcing it. For example, if mycolors.vim
is your own configuration, you can have something like `source
/path/to/mycolors.vim` in your .vimrc/.gvimrc, so that the syntax
highlighting in mycolors.vim is read everytime vim/gvim starts.
I'd suggest you to look at vim.org. comp.editors is also a good place.
-siddharth |
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Guy Macon
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Sun Jan 09, 2005 1:47 am Post subject:
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Tim Wescott wrote:
| Quote: | Actually I spend enough time at the keyboard that I've switched to
Dvorak layout -- I got a 20% speedup in typing speed and I don't have to
worry about anyone else messing with my machine (nor, unfortunately, do
I have to ask myself if I can be productive on a QWERTY keyboard -- but
then, its so broken they had to print the legend on the key caps!).
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Do you find it difficult to switch back and forth between QWERTY
and Dvorak? Assuming that you do keyboard mapping in the OS,
have you found that in certain situations the system insists on
QWERTY? The obvious one is the BIOS settings, and Win9X users
lose keyboard mapping in DOS mode. I don't know of a case where
Linux/OS X/BSD get the wrong keyboard after booting, but I don't
use Dvorak and so would not notice. |
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Alan Balmer
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Mon Jan 10, 2005 8:31 pm Post subject:
Re: How about Best Text Editor? |
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On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 19:28:46 +0100, Oliver Betz <OBetz@despammed.com>
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| Quote: | Tim Wescott <tim@wescottnospamdesign.com> wrote:
1. Column editing. Can't be beat.
2. Regular expressions. Gotta have 'em.
3. IDE-like features -- I can compile from it, and after some work with...
4. Point & click for most editing -- I don't want to learn a zillion
5. Project-based find-in-files. Find-and-replace-in-files is a plus,
Did you look at MED and Source Insight?
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MED - Is that Matthias Pfersdorff's Mr. Ed? I used that on both OS/2
and Windows, but he stopped development on the OS/2 version.
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Oliver Betz
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Tue Jan 11, 2005 2:20 am Post subject:
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Alan Balmer <albalmer@att.net> wrote:
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| Quote: | Did you look at MED and Source Insight?
MED - Is that Matthias Pfersdorff's Mr. Ed? I used that on both OS/2
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Exactly, look at http://www.med-editor.com/indexus.html
| Quote: | and Windows, but he stopped development on the OS/2 version.
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The Windows version continues slowly. For example, folding is in the
list of planned features since years. Nevertheless I like it very much
for editing sources.
Oliver
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Alan Balmer
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Tue Jan 11, 2005 2:36 am Post subject:
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On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:20:54 +0100, Oliver Betz <OBetz@despammed.com>
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| Quote: | Alan Balmer <albalmer@att.net> wrote:
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Did you look at MED and Source Insight?
MED - Is that Matthias Pfersdorff's Mr. Ed? I used that on both OS/2
Exactly, look at http://www.med-editor.com/indexus.html
and Windows, but he stopped development on the OS/2 version.
The Windows version continues slowly. For example, folding is in the
list of planned features since years. Nevertheless I like it very much
for editing sources.
Oliver
Good to know that it's still around. It's a nice editor, and I found |
Matthias to be very responsive regarding bug reports and suggested
features.
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Al Balmer
Balmer Consulting
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