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Skyfuck Blying
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Tue Sep 13, 2005 4:15 pm Post subject:
Taking back control of my brain ? |
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Ok,
My brain just got hi-jacked and I'm gonna crash hard. Would it be possible
to take back control of my brain ?
Where is my brain located ? AHHHHHHHHHHH
I looked for it between my ears but there seems to be only empty space :(((
I would want as much as information as possible AHHHHHHH.
INPUT PLS, INFORMATION NOWWWWWWWWWWW =D !
Bye,
Skyfuck. |
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acuario
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Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:15 am Post subject:
Re: Taking back control of my brain ? |
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On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:16:54 +0200, "Skyfuck Blying" <wayup@high.com>
wrote:
| Quote: | Ok,
My brain just got hi-jacked and I'm gonna crash hard. Would it be possible
to take back control of my brain ?
Where is my brain located ? AHHHHHHHHHHH
I looked for it between my ears but there seems to be only empty space :(((
I would want as much as information as possible AHHHHHHH.
INPUT PLS, INFORMATION NOWWWWWWWWWWW =D !
Bye,
Skyfuck.
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You should remove the word "back" from the subject. |
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Pooh Bear
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Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:15 am Post subject:
Re: Taking back control of the flight computer ? |
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glen herrmannsfeldt wrote:
| Quote: | Skybuck Flying wrote:
Suppose the plane has just been hi-jacked. You are onboard flight X and it s
going to crash into some building. Would it be possible to take back control
of the flight computer ?
I believe there was some discussion about four years ago
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Some discussion amonst the sci-fi fraternity maybe ?
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allowing air traffic controllers to override the onboard computers.
I don't know that anything was ever done, though.
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Because it's not sensible to do it for 101 practical, engineering and simple
plain common sense reasons.
Graham |
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Alex McDonald
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Wed Sep 14, 2005 5:54 pm Post subject:
Re: Taking back control of the flight computer ? |
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Skybuck Flying wrote:
| Quote: | Come on guys,
This is a serious issue.
Somewhere in the future you might actually be inside a hi-jacked plane, then
what you gonna do ???
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Pray that your ass isn't in the pilot's seat.
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Alex McDonald |
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Sander Vesik
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Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:44 pm Post subject:
Re: Taking back control of the flight computer ? |
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In comp.arch Robert Myers <rbmyersusa@gmail.com> wrote:
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Now, the amazing thing is that no one had thought the scenario through
before 9/11, but they hadn't. If the government hasn't thought it
through by now and taken steps to address the issue, we're in deep
trouble.
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But is it really a useful thing to look at and consider? Most probably
whoever is in the pilot seat will remain in control and be able to
turn the computer off, so whats the use? And terrorsist will be able to
turn off the computer, if needed with box openers, and replace their
own.
If air control can make planes crash into skyscrapers remotely its
air control and not the planes that will be highjacked. One never
stops wondering about stupidness of "bright" ideas for avoiding
plane hijackings.
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Sander
+++ Out of cheese error +++ |
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Skybuck Flying
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Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:45 pm Post subject:
Re: Taking back control of my brain ? |
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Lol, nice spoof ! =D
Bye,
The real Skybuck =D :P
"Skyfuck Blying" <wayup@high.com> wrote in message
news:4326faff$0$1010$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
| Quote: | Ok,
My brain just got hi-jacked and I'm gonna crash hard. Would it be possible
to take back control of my brain ?
Where is my brain located ? AHHHHHHHHHHH
I looked for it between my ears but there seems to be only empty space
:(((
I would want as much as information as possible AHHHHHHH.
INPUT PLS, INFORMATION NOWWWWWWWWWWW =D !
Bye,
Skyfuck.
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Skybuck Flying
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Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:51 pm Post subject:
Re: Taking back control of the flight computer ? |
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Come on guys,
This is a serious issue.
Somewhere in the future you might actually be inside a hi-jacked plane, then
what you gonna do ???
Call the cops ?
Ask this newgroup ?
I am kinda disappointed and disgusted by the replies in this newsgroup :P
Let's stop the bullshit and get serious.
What can seriously done to get control back of the plane ?
If the answer is: we dont know, then all planes on this planet are in
serious trouble !
Time for a wake up call.
Bye,
Skybuck.
"Robert Baer" <robertbaer@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:N1bVe.163$Gy3.46@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
| Quote: | Skybuck Flying wrote:
Ok,
Suppose the plane has just been hi-jacked. You are onboard flight X and
it s
going to crash into some building. Would it be possible to take back
control
of the flight computer ?
Where is the flight computer located ? AHHHHHHHHHHH
Just curious... in what language would it be programmed... does it have
software or hardware only ?
What about boing 747, 757, 767, 777 ? AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I would want as much as information as possible AHHHHHHH.
INPUT PLS, INFORMATION NOWWWWWWWWWWW =D !
Bye,
Skybuck.
We are on to you...Which plane are you planning to skyjack, so that i
may avoid that flight? |
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Robert Myers
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Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:54 pm Post subject:
Re: Taking back control of the flight computer ? |
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Skybuck Flying wrote:
| Quote: | Let's stop the bullshit and get serious.
What can seriously done to get control back of the plane ?
If the answer is: we dont know, then all planes on this planet are in
serious trouble !
Time for a wake up call.
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Okay. Here's a serious answer. If the DoD/NASA/FAA/DHS haven't
convened classified panels to look at this issue, I'd be amazed.
If I had a good idea, believe me, I wouldn't be blathering it around
here.
If someone is in a position to know what's been done, they're not in a
position to talk about it.
Now, the amazing thing is that no one had thought the scenario through
before 9/11, but they hadn't. If the government hasn't thought it
through by now and taken steps to address the issue, we're in deep
trouble.
If you think you've got a great idea, maybe you can get someone at
DARPA or DHS to give you a hearing.
RM |
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Del Cecchi
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Thu Sep 15, 2005 12:15 am Post subject:
Re: Taking back control of the flight computer ? |
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Robert Myers wrote:
| Quote: | Skybuck Flying wrote:
Let's stop the bullshit and get serious.
What can seriously done to get control back of the plane ?
If the answer is: we dont know, then all planes on this planet are in
serious trouble !
Time for a wake up call.
Okay. Here's a serious answer. If the DoD/NASA/FAA/DHS haven't
convened classified panels to look at this issue, I'd be amazed.
If I had a good idea, believe me, I wouldn't be blathering it around
here.
If someone is in a position to know what's been done, they're not in a
position to talk about it.
Now, the amazing thing is that no one had thought the scenario through
before 9/11, but they hadn't. If the government hasn't thought it
through by now and taken steps to address the issue, we're in deep
trouble.
If you think you've got a great idea, maybe you can get someone at
DARPA or DHS to give you a hearing.
RM
The next time someone tries it they will be beaten to death by the |
passengers. The cockpit doors are reinforced and the passengers will
never again sit dociley by, believing promises of no harm if they
co-operate and allow negotiations. See flight 93. Likewise, the pilots
will not co-operate and will land at the first opportunity.
del cecchi
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Del Cecchi
"This post is my own and doesn’t necessarily represent IBM’s positions,
strategies or opinions.” |
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Sean Kelly
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Thu Sep 15, 2005 12:15 am Post subject:
Re: Taking back control of the flight computer ? |
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Robert Myers wrote:
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Okay. Here's a serious answer. If the DoD/NASA/FAA/DHS haven't
convened classified panels to look at this issue, I'd be amazed.
If I had a good idea, believe me, I wouldn't be blathering it around
here.
If someone is in a position to know what's been done, they're not in a
position to talk about it.
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This sounds like a complex answer to a simple problem. Plus, it
presents the opportunity for hackers to take control of airplanes from
a secure location. Gives a whole new meaning to the term "fly by wire"
;-)
Sean |
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redbelly
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Thu Sep 15, 2005 12:15 am Post subject:
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Skybuck Flying wrote:
| Quote: | Let's stop the bullshit and get serious.
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Words fail me.
Mark |
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Ken Smith
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Thu Sep 15, 2005 2:33 am Post subject:
Re: Taking back control of the flight computer ? |
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In article <1126724092.026776.151640@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
Robert Myers <rbmyersusa@gmail.com> wrote:
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| Quote: | Now, the amazing thing is that no one had thought the scenario through
before 9/11, but they hadn't.
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At least one person had thought it through. I'd bet there were others but
they were just ignored.
| Quote: | If the government hasn't thought it
through by now and taken steps to address the issue, we're in deep
trouble.
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Welcome to the deep trouble. I believe that Air Bus has taken some steps
on their own.
| Quote: | If you think you've got a great idea, maybe you can get someone at
DARPA or DHS to give you a hearing.
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DARPA only does projects that push technologies forwards. If something
can be done with what is off the shelf today, they aren't interested
because that just isn't their mission. The FFA may be the right people to
address the issue but they make continental drift look fast.
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kensmith@rahul.net forging knowledge |
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Ken Smith
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Thu Sep 15, 2005 2:36 am Post subject:
Re: Taking back control of the flight computer ? |
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In article <1126731334.818926.221680@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
Sean Kelly <sean@f4.ca> wrote:
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| Quote: | This sounds like a complex answer to a simple problem. Plus, it
presents the opportunity for hackers to take control of airplanes from
a secure location. Gives a whole new meaning to the term "fly by wire"
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The system can be all contained on the aircraft. It only needs GPS or the
like to know where it is. The software contains a map of the world. If
there isn't an airport marked at this location, you can't go below 3000
feet.
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Robert Myers
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Thu Sep 15, 2005 7:00 am Post subject:
Re: Taking back control of the flight computer ? |
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Sander Vesik wrote:
| Quote: | In comp.arch Robert Myers <rbmyersusa@gmail.com> wrote:
Now, the amazing thing is that no one had thought the scenario through
before 9/11, but they hadn't. If the government hasn't thought it
through by now and taken steps to address the issue, we're in deep
trouble.
But is it really a useful thing to look at and consider? Most probably
whoever is in the pilot seat will remain in control and be able to
turn the computer off, so whats the use? And terrorsist will be able to
turn off the computer, if needed with box openers, and replace their
own.
What technical means can be used to foil an attempt to get control of a |
passenger aircraft and to use it as a weapon of mass destruction
certainly seems like an interesting and important question to ask, even
if using the flight computer in the way proposed isn't likely to be all
that interesting. And, whatever countermeasures you took, you surely
wouldn't want to announce them to the world.
RM |
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Skybuck Flying
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Thu Sep 15, 2005 7:41 am Post subject:
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"Robert Myers" <rbmyersusa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Sander Vesik wrote:
In comp.arch Robert Myers <rbmyersusa@gmail.com> wrote:
Now, the amazing thing is that no one had thought the scenario through
before 9/11, but they hadn't. If the government hasn't thought it
through by now and taken steps to address the issue, we're in deep
trouble.
But is it really a useful thing to look at and consider? Most probably
whoever is in the pilot seat will remain in control and be able to
turn the computer off, so whats the use? And terrorsist will be able to
turn off the computer, if needed with box openers, and replace their
own.
What technical means can be used to foil an attempt to get control of a
passenger aircraft and to use it as a weapon of mass destruction
certainly seems like an interesting and important question to ask, even
if using the flight computer in the way proposed isn't likely to be all
that interesting. And, whatever countermeasures you took, you surely
wouldn't want to announce them to the world.
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Well I think the following could be done:
The airplane contains emergency buttons everywhere.
As soon as these buttons are pressed the nearest air traffic control center
is notified.
The airplane immediatly enters into auto pilot and sets heading for the
nearest airfield etc and simply lands there.
So, passengers no longer have to enter a struggle for life and death into
the cockpit etc. Flight 93 crashed because they couldn't get into the
cockpit fast enough. The pilot simply crashed it reaaaal quick.
So now only a fight for these buttons has to occur and since there are so
many it shouldn't be a problem at all to press any one of them ;) All
directly connected to the flight control computer etc.
As soon as the plane is in a state of emergency the pilots loose control of
their aircraft etc and it's flown automatically ;) =D
So in other words to hell with the pilots lol =D <- kamikazi NO THANK YOU !
Bye,
Skybuck. |
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