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Scott
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Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:43 pm Post subject:
Microsoft Windows Powered NAS Dell device |
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Hello,
Has anyone attempted to use Windows Update on a NAS device with a
"Windows Powered" Device? I just purchased a 725 DELL PowerVault,
it's a nice 500 gig NAS box, that came with Windows Powered running on
it.
Problem is, it is incompatible with WindowsUpdate, and it is telling
me that I have SQL 2000 on my machine and it hasn't been patched with
the Blaster virus fix.
Dell tells me that if I go ahead and patch it, my machine will be
unusable. Microsoft is telling me that in this case I don't need to
patch it because "Windows Powered" is actually Windows Advanced Server
2000 SP4. However, moving forward, how will windowsupdate support
these devices?
-Scott |
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Pat [MSFT]
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Wed Jun 30, 2004 6:32 am Post subject:
Re: Microsoft Windows Powered NAS Dell device |
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Windows 2000 SP4 would not address the blaster fix as it is an issue in SQL
Server and not in the base OS. You would need to obtain the latest SQL
Service Pack to address that. However, you would need to check with Dell to
see what would happen in that case (i.e. if you install SQL Service Pack
does their solution stop working). Also, are you talking about a full SQL
instance or MSDE?
Pat
"Scott" <spc06@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:8fc85bf.0406291143.110df932@posting.google.com...
| Quote: | Hello,
Has anyone attempted to use Windows Update on a NAS device with a
"Windows Powered" Device? I just purchased a 725 DELL PowerVault,
it's a nice 500 gig NAS box, that came with Windows Powered running on
it.
Problem is, it is incompatible with WindowsUpdate, and it is telling
me that I have SQL 2000 on my machine and it hasn't been patched with
the Blaster virus fix.
Dell tells me that if I go ahead and patch it, my machine will be
unusable. Microsoft is telling me that in this case I don't need to
patch it because "Windows Powered" is actually Windows Advanced Server
2000 SP4. However, moving forward, how will windowsupdate support
these devices?
-Scott |
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Pat [MSFT]
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Thu Jul 01, 2004 12:53 pm Post subject:
Re: Microsoft Windows Powered NAS Dell device |
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I just realized that I was confused (i.e. wrong). When you mentioned SQL, I
thought you were talking about the Slammer Worm (which is a security issue
in SQL/MSDE and not patched by OS Service Packs). Blaster was a bug in
RPCSS.dll which is a system component and would be updated by Windows
Update. You can verify that you are OK (or not) by checking the date on the
RPCSS.dll in the c:\winnt\system32 (or c:\windows\system32 - depending on
how the image was setup); it should be Aug 23, 2003 or later
(http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=824146#Win2000). You can
also download the patch directly (i.e. not go through Windows Update) if
needed.
All OS security fixes are tested on the NAS software at Microsoft (base
image), so the box will still work after you apply the patch (i.e. all the
shares will work, clients will connect, etc.). It is strongly recommended
that you install all security patches.
Any additional features (i.e. customizations) that may have been added by an
OEM are tested by the OEM.
Pat
"Pat [MSFT]" <patfilot@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:u$jdMqkXEHA.3972@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | Windows 2000 SP4 would not address the blaster fix as it is an issue in
SQL
Server and not in the base OS. You would need to obtain the latest SQL
Service Pack to address that. However, you would need to check with Dell
to
see what would happen in that case (i.e. if you install SQL Service Pack
does their solution stop working). Also, are you talking about a full SQL
instance or MSDE?
Pat
"Scott" <spc06@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:8fc85bf.0406291143.110df932@posting.google.com...
Hello,
Has anyone attempted to use Windows Update on a NAS device with a
"Windows Powered" Device? I just purchased a 725 DELL PowerVault,
it's a nice 500 gig NAS box, that came with Windows Powered running on
it.
Problem is, it is incompatible with WindowsUpdate, and it is telling
me that I have SQL 2000 on my machine and it hasn't been patched with
the Blaster virus fix.
Dell tells me that if I go ahead and patch it, my machine will be
unusable. Microsoft is telling me that in this case I don't need to
patch it because "Windows Powered" is actually Windows Advanced Server
2000 SP4. However, moving forward, how will windowsupdate support
these devices?
-Scott
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Al Mulnick
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Sat Jul 03, 2004 7:54 pm Post subject:
Re: Microsoft Windows Powered NAS Dell device |
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And precisely for that last reason, one would expect that all support would
come from the OEM.
Pat, why is this different and why is it expected to work properly?
Al
"Pat [MSFT]" <patfilot@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:e7oCdj0XEHA.3664@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | I just realized that I was confused (i.e. wrong). When you mentioned SQL,
I
thought you were talking about the Slammer Worm (which is a security issue
in SQL/MSDE and not patched by OS Service Packs). Blaster was a bug in
RPCSS.dll which is a system component and would be updated by Windows
Update. You can verify that you are OK (or not) by checking the date on
the
RPCSS.dll in the c:\winnt\system32 (or c:\windows\system32 - depending on
how the image was setup); it should be Aug 23, 2003 or later
(http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=824146#Win2000). You can
also download the patch directly (i.e. not go through Windows Update) if
needed.
All OS security fixes are tested on the NAS software at Microsoft (base
image), so the box will still work after you apply the patch (i.e. all the
shares will work, clients will connect, etc.). It is strongly recommended
that you install all security patches.
Any additional features (i.e. customizations) that may have been added by
an
OEM are tested by the OEM.
Pat
"Pat [MSFT]" <patfilot@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:u$jdMqkXEHA.3972@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
Windows 2000 SP4 would not address the blaster fix as it is an issue in
SQL
Server and not in the base OS. You would need to obtain the latest SQL
Service Pack to address that. However, you would need to check with
Dell
to
see what would happen in that case (i.e. if you install SQL Service Pack
does their solution stop working). Also, are you talking about a full
SQL
instance or MSDE?
Pat
"Scott" <spc06@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:8fc85bf.0406291143.110df932@posting.google.com...
Hello,
Has anyone attempted to use Windows Update on a NAS device with a
"Windows Powered" Device? I just purchased a 725 DELL PowerVault,
it's a nice 500 gig NAS box, that came with Windows Powered running on
it.
Problem is, it is incompatible with WindowsUpdate, and it is telling
me that I have SQL 2000 on my machine and it hasn't been patched with
the Blaster virus fix.
Dell tells me that if I go ahead and patch it, my machine will be
unusable. Microsoft is telling me that in this case I don't need to
patch it because "Windows Powered" is actually Windows Advanced Server
2000 SP4. However, moving forward, how will windowsupdate support
these devices?
-Scott
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Pat [MSFT]
Guest
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Sun Jul 04, 2004 9:09 pm Post subject:
Re: Microsoft Windows Powered NAS Dell device |
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I am only referring to security patches here. Non-security patches should
only come through the OEM. This is primarily due to the time criticality of
a security issue.
Pat
"Al Mulnick" <amulnick_No_SPAM@ncDOTrr.com> wrote in message
news:Otu8XYRYEHA.644@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | And precisely for that last reason, one would expect that all support
would
come from the OEM.
Pat, why is this different and why is it expected to work properly?
Al
"Pat [MSFT]" <patfilot@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:e7oCdj0XEHA.3664@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
I just realized that I was confused (i.e. wrong). When you mentioned
SQL,
I
thought you were talking about the Slammer Worm (which is a security
issue
in SQL/MSDE and not patched by OS Service Packs). Blaster was a bug in
RPCSS.dll which is a system component and would be updated by Windows
Update. You can verify that you are OK (or not) by checking the date on
the
RPCSS.dll in the c:\winnt\system32 (or c:\windows\system32 - depending
on
how the image was setup); it should be Aug 23, 2003 or later
(http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=824146#Win2000). You
can
also download the patch directly (i.e. not go through Windows Update) if
needed.
All OS security fixes are tested on the NAS software at Microsoft (base
image), so the box will still work after you apply the patch (i.e. all
the
shares will work, clients will connect, etc.). It is strongly
recommended
that you install all security patches.
Any additional features (i.e. customizations) that may have been added
by
an
OEM are tested by the OEM.
Pat
"Pat [MSFT]" <patfilot@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:u$jdMqkXEHA.3972@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
Windows 2000 SP4 would not address the blaster fix as it is an issue
in
SQL
Server and not in the base OS. You would need to obtain the latest
SQL
Service Pack to address that. However, you would need to check with
Dell
to
see what would happen in that case (i.e. if you install SQL Service
Pack
does their solution stop working). Also, are you talking about a full
SQL
instance or MSDE?
Pat
"Scott" <spc06@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:8fc85bf.0406291143.110df932@posting.google.com...
Hello,
Has anyone attempted to use Windows Update on a NAS device with a
"Windows Powered" Device? I just purchased a 725 DELL PowerVault,
it's a nice 500 gig NAS box, that came with Windows Powered running
on
it.
Problem is, it is incompatible with WindowsUpdate, and it is telling
me that I have SQL 2000 on my machine and it hasn't been patched
with
the Blaster virus fix.
Dell tells me that if I go ahead and patch it, my machine will be
unusable. Microsoft is telling me that in this case I don't need to
patch it because "Windows Powered" is actually Windows Advanced
Server
2000 SP4. However, moving forward, how will windowsupdate support
these devices?
-Scott
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Al Mulnick
Guest
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Tue Jul 06, 2004 2:04 am Post subject:
Re: Microsoft Windows Powered NAS Dell device |
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Good to know.
Curious though, how does the customer know which security patches are
applicable to their OEM customized version? Is there a something notifying
the person about to download that says, "This patch applies to versions
x.y.z with serial number 1.2.3.43.4 from vendor ZZZZZZ" so they can be sure
to get the right patch?
Al
"Pat [MSFT]" <patfilot@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:udJltmeYEHA.2844@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | I am only referring to security patches here. Non-security patches should
only come through the OEM. This is primarily due to the time criticality
of
a security issue.
Pat
"Al Mulnick" <amulnick_No_SPAM@ncDOTrr.com> wrote in message
news:Otu8XYRYEHA.644@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
And precisely for that last reason, one would expect that all support
would
come from the OEM.
Pat, why is this different and why is it expected to work properly?
Al
"Pat [MSFT]" <patfilot@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:e7oCdj0XEHA.3664@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
I just realized that I was confused (i.e. wrong). When you mentioned
SQL,
I
thought you were talking about the Slammer Worm (which is a security
issue
in SQL/MSDE and not patched by OS Service Packs). Blaster was a bug
in
RPCSS.dll which is a system component and would be updated by Windows
Update. You can verify that you are OK (or not) by checking the date
on
the
RPCSS.dll in the c:\winnt\system32 (or c:\windows\system32 - depending
on
how the image was setup); it should be Aug 23, 2003 or later
(http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=824146#Win2000). You
can
also download the patch directly (i.e. not go through Windows Update)
if
needed.
All OS security fixes are tested on the NAS software at Microsoft
(base
image), so the box will still work after you apply the patch (i.e. all
the
shares will work, clients will connect, etc.). It is strongly
recommended
that you install all security patches.
Any additional features (i.e. customizations) that may have been added
by
an
OEM are tested by the OEM.
Pat
"Pat [MSFT]" <patfilot@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:u$jdMqkXEHA.3972@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
Windows 2000 SP4 would not address the blaster fix as it is an issue
in
SQL
Server and not in the base OS. You would need to obtain the latest
SQL
Service Pack to address that. However, you would need to check with
Dell
to
see what would happen in that case (i.e. if you install SQL Service
Pack
does their solution stop working). Also, are you talking about a
full
SQL
instance or MSDE?
Pat
"Scott" <spc06@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:8fc85bf.0406291143.110df932@posting.google.com...
Hello,
Has anyone attempted to use Windows Update on a NAS device with a
"Windows Powered" Device? I just purchased a 725 DELL PowerVault,
it's a nice 500 gig NAS box, that came with Windows Powered
running
on
it.
Problem is, it is incompatible with WindowsUpdate, and it is
telling
me that I have SQL 2000 on my machine and it hasn't been patched
with
the Blaster virus fix.
Dell tells me that if I go ahead and patch it, my machine will be
unusable. Microsoft is telling me that in this case I don't need
to
patch it because "Windows Powered" is actually Windows Advanced
Server
2000 SP4. However, moving forward, how will windowsupdate support
these devices?
-Scott
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Pat [MSFT]
Guest
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Tue Jul 06, 2004 3:57 am Post subject:
Re: Microsoft Windows Powered NAS Dell device |
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The security patches from MS are universal to the OS in question (e.g. all
Win2k3 based boxes). Brand/Model specific fixes (e.g. a fix to a feature
unique to an OEM) would come direct from the OEM.
Pat
"Al Mulnick" <amulnick_No_SPAM@ncDOTrr.com> wrote in message
news:%23itQRwtYEHA.160@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | Good to know.
Curious though, how does the customer know which security patches are
applicable to their OEM customized version? Is there a something
notifying
the person about to download that says, "This patch applies to versions
x.y.z with serial number 1.2.3.43.4 from vendor ZZZZZZ" so they can be
sure
to get the right patch?
Al
"Pat [MSFT]" <patfilot@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:udJltmeYEHA.2844@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
I am only referring to security patches here. Non-security patches
should
only come through the OEM. This is primarily due to the time
criticality
of
a security issue.
Pat
"Al Mulnick" <amulnick_No_SPAM@ncDOTrr.com> wrote in message
news:Otu8XYRYEHA.644@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
And precisely for that last reason, one would expect that all support
would
come from the OEM.
Pat, why is this different and why is it expected to work properly?
Al
"Pat [MSFT]" <patfilot@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:e7oCdj0XEHA.3664@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
I just realized that I was confused (i.e. wrong). When you
mentioned
SQL,
I
thought you were talking about the Slammer Worm (which is a security
issue
in SQL/MSDE and not patched by OS Service Packs). Blaster was a bug
in
RPCSS.dll which is a system component and would be updated by
Windows
Update. You can verify that you are OK (or not) by checking the
date
on
the
RPCSS.dll in the c:\winnt\system32 (or c:\windows\system32 -
depending
on
how the image was setup); it should be Aug 23, 2003 or later
(http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=824146#Win2000).
You
can
also download the patch directly (i.e. not go through Windows
Update)
if
needed.
All OS security fixes are tested on the NAS software at Microsoft
(base
image), so the box will still work after you apply the patch (i.e.
all
the
shares will work, clients will connect, etc.). It is strongly
recommended
that you install all security patches.
Any additional features (i.e. customizations) that may have been
added
by
an
OEM are tested by the OEM.
Pat
"Pat [MSFT]" <patfilot@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:u$jdMqkXEHA.3972@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
Windows 2000 SP4 would not address the blaster fix as it is an
issue
in
SQL
Server and not in the base OS. You would need to obtain the
latest
SQL
Service Pack to address that. However, you would need to check
with
Dell
to
see what would happen in that case (i.e. if you install SQL
Service
Pack
does their solution stop working). Also, are you talking about a
full
SQL
instance or MSDE?
Pat
"Scott" <spc06@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:8fc85bf.0406291143.110df932@posting.google.com...
Hello,
Has anyone attempted to use Windows Update on a NAS device with
a
"Windows Powered" Device? I just purchased a 725 DELL
PowerVault,
it's a nice 500 gig NAS box, that came with Windows Powered
running
on
it.
Problem is, it is incompatible with WindowsUpdate, and it is
telling
me that I have SQL 2000 on my machine and it hasn't been patched
with
the Blaster virus fix.
Dell tells me that if I go ahead and patch it, my machine will
be
unusable. Microsoft is telling me that in this case I don't
need
to
patch it because "Windows Powered" is actually Windows Advanced
Server
2000 SP4. However, moving forward, how will windowsupdate
support
these devices?
-Scott
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Al Mulnick
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Tue Jul 06, 2004 5:21 am Post subject:
Re: Microsoft Windows Powered NAS Dell device |
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Ok. Thanks Pat. I'll go run and install some IE security fixes to my NAS
box before tomorrow then.
Al
"Pat [MSFT]" <patfilot@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:OMJ4gvuYEHA.2816@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | The security patches from MS are universal to the OS in question (e.g. all
Win2k3 based boxes). Brand/Model specific fixes (e.g. a fix to a feature
unique to an OEM) would come direct from the OEM.
Pat
"Al Mulnick" <amulnick_No_SPAM@ncDOTrr.com> wrote in message
news:%23itQRwtYEHA.160@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Good to know.
Curious though, how does the customer know which security patches are
applicable to their OEM customized version? Is there a something
notifying
the person about to download that says, "This patch applies to versions
x.y.z with serial number 1.2.3.43.4 from vendor ZZZZZZ" so they can be
sure
to get the right patch?
Al
"Pat [MSFT]" <patfilot@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:udJltmeYEHA.2844@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
I am only referring to security patches here. Non-security patches
should
only come through the OEM. This is primarily due to the time
criticality
of
a security issue.
Pat
"Al Mulnick" <amulnick_No_SPAM@ncDOTrr.com> wrote in message
news:Otu8XYRYEHA.644@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
And precisely for that last reason, one would expect that all
support
would
come from the OEM.
Pat, why is this different and why is it expected to work properly?
Al
"Pat [MSFT]" <patfilot@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:e7oCdj0XEHA.3664@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
I just realized that I was confused (i.e. wrong). When you
mentioned
SQL,
I
thought you were talking about the Slammer Worm (which is a
security
issue
in SQL/MSDE and not patched by OS Service Packs). Blaster was a
bug
in
RPCSS.dll which is a system component and would be updated by
Windows
Update. You can verify that you are OK (or not) by checking the
date
on
the
RPCSS.dll in the c:\winnt\system32 (or c:\windows\system32 -
depending
on
how the image was setup); it should be Aug 23, 2003 or later
(http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=824146#Win2000).
You
can
also download the patch directly (i.e. not go through Windows
Update)
if
needed.
All OS security fixes are tested on the NAS software at Microsoft
(base
image), so the box will still work after you apply the patch (i.e.
all
the
shares will work, clients will connect, etc.). It is strongly
recommended
that you install all security patches.
Any additional features (i.e. customizations) that may have been
added
by
an
OEM are tested by the OEM.
Pat
"Pat [MSFT]" <patfilot@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:u$jdMqkXEHA.3972@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
Windows 2000 SP4 would not address the blaster fix as it is an
issue
in
SQL
Server and not in the base OS. You would need to obtain the
latest
SQL
Service Pack to address that. However, you would need to check
with
Dell
to
see what would happen in that case (i.e. if you install SQL
Service
Pack
does their solution stop working). Also, are you talking about
a
full
SQL
instance or MSDE?
Pat
"Scott" <spc06@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:8fc85bf.0406291143.110df932@posting.google.com...
Hello,
Has anyone attempted to use Windows Update on a NAS device
with
a
"Windows Powered" Device? I just purchased a 725 DELL
PowerVault,
it's a nice 500 gig NAS box, that came with Windows Powered
running
on
it.
Problem is, it is incompatible with WindowsUpdate, and it is
telling
me that I have SQL 2000 on my machine and it hasn't been
patched
with
the Blaster virus fix.
Dell tells me that if I go ahead and patch it, my machine will
be
unusable. Microsoft is telling me that in this case I don't
need
to
patch it because "Windows Powered" is actually Windows
Advanced
Server
2000 SP4. However, moving forward, how will windowsupdate
support
these devices?
-Scott
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